Keeping to the theme of Tony’s video with his Windows Mobile device, here (via a reminder on comments from its creator) is Pocket Griff. There’s no gimmick here: this is all about taking your software studio / sequencer and putting it in your pocket so if inspiration strikes you on the go, you can actually make something. And because of the ready availability of powerful PDAs that run Windows Mobile – including some impressive refurb / used models and devices that aren’t also trying to be a phone – it’s not hard to find a gadget that can run this.

As seen in September on Palm Sounds, though worth repeating here.

Griff Promo Movie from Daniel Webb on Vimeo.

Promos are good, but actually learning how to use the tool is often the best way to judge it musically. It’s well worth going through the whole walkthrough, as that should give you an idea of whether or not this way of working is your style:


Griff Walkthrough from Daniel Webb on Vimeo.

Head to the official Griff site for more:

And you know, while we’ve seen some apps come close, we really haven’t seen an iPhone app quite this comprehensive.

  • jeremy

    please make it stop.

  • drew

    don't forget Bhajis Loops…
    i haven't used Griff, but Bhajis is an extremely powerful and dynamic pocket-studio, very well designed with a clean interface. it is Palm-based, rather than Windows…but I am yet to see a iPhone app that could possibly challenge it

  • Alex

    Please Peter, i'm bored to death with all these mobile apps…they are not serious music tools. Maybe someday they'll be, but now, this kind of news just ruins the purpose of the blog…i mean, if there are so many news for mobile toys, then you could make a section only for mobile devices. Thanks for giving us the info about all these apps but its like a flood in every page there are mobile phone apps..not every musician has a $400-$600 phone and these phones doesn't worth their money for making music with them…i believe that there are much more interesting and important music technology news out there. You don't even have to post every day. Its not bad when you post about an "iphone app" two/three times in a month, but when you put so much info for mobile toys/gadgets (and especially for iphone) you look like an Apple advertiser. All these apps could be posted in other blogs about 3g mobile phones not here…we already got a taste of what a mobile phone can do nowadays…we don't need so much info about it!

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  • i seem to be one of the few people who is not sick of hearing about mobile apps and devices. i am currently deciding what phone i would like to buy next and its absolutely critical that it can do as much as possible with music and audio in addition to making calls, IM'ing and keeping my bank account balanced.

    often people seem sick of mobile apps, cause they are considered toys. i make no distinction between 'toys' and the most powerful DAWs. in fact, i am so sick of hearing about it, it spurred me to get my blog off the ground because i wanted to write about it:

    i did much of the sound and music design for the latest THX trailer that plays before movies in THX theaters. something that involves some pretty fancy gear. well, it also involved some noisy circuit bent 'toys' and other sources and tools (including mobile devices that Alex above would call 'not serious') that might surprise some people.

    anyways, i would actually love to see a site that keeps close track of iphones vs android phones vs winmo phones in terms of audio capabilities so i can make the most informed decision. because there is no one site that does this, CDM is a spot i check up on to find the latest news so i say thanks Peter and keep the info rolling in. all this mobile stuff has been very helpful thus far.

    if the iphone could easily run background apps, i probably would have bought that already even though apple has always put form to far over function for me. if the g1 had a headphone out or stereo bluetooth, i would have considered it. i am also certainly keeping my eyes on the winmo situation.

    this site has been invaluable keeping track of this stuff and i appreciate it.

  • Well, Alex, we now seem to have this debate nearly daily, but …
    * generally speaking, there's been less interest in spawning additional sites for specific topic areas.
    * got plenty in the hopper that's non-mobile… stay tuned this week (or see today's post, which is really about using that mobile app alongside a full-sized keyboard in a way I think is practical)
    * I think I probably look like anything but an Apple advertiser… and this is a Windows Mobile app, anyway. I'm hoping for more mobile Linux development. The iPhone wave makes sense given the timing of their SDK, their sales numbers, and some of the audio-specific features of the phone APIs / being able to do Mac-style development.
    * my whole point here is that you can pick up one of these Windows Mobile devices for a LOT less than $400 … especially someone's discarded PDA.

    I mean, I also get tired sometimes of endless plug-ins, because I spend more time in specific tools (I don't need another subtractive virtual analog synth, for instance). But we'll have other stuff. You never get 100% of people interested with every post.

  • Whatever the outcome of the above debate, thank you, Peter, for mentioning Griff. Through this kind of exposure Griff may reach a few more people who will find it helps them create digital music.

    It's a bit like music – not all of the stuff you hear will be to your tastes, but it will be to someone.

  • blipmusic

    Make it continue! Actually Griff was great, if a little fiddly. The bassline synth, Goldfish was fun to poke around with and if my pda wouldn't have died the death (yes, that bad) I'd be abe to bak those song up, but now they're gone, hopelessly drifting outside our history sphere.

    Alex, are you still here? Why? You seem very inclined to write an entire paragraph every time (gah, as do I… I do apologize) you want to criticize the news content of this blog. This is the internet, ie *lots* of other sites covering audio/music out there), and while I don't think Peter wants to loose knowledgeable readers such as yourself (no sarcasm intended) I think most of us know about your opinion. I don't know, but maybe the news content in this blog isn't for you? On the other hand I'd be much happier if you stay and triy to understand that parallell to the "studio business" there's literary a world of opportunities for *anyone* who wants to make music nowadays.

    Look at it this way: 20 years ago (30?) having "studio quality" productions would cost you an arm and a leg. And those kidneys, meaning you'd have to ixnay the whiskey while jamming in the studio. Nowadays you could setup something that comes very close in fidelity in your bedroom for *alot* less. Get a laptop (or a desktop, more power for less money, but also less portable) a decent soundcard a mic or two and you could start out entirely in software for the rest.

    As portable devices become more powerful you can bet there is someone who'd like to use that power for a plethora of things, such as music and audio production. The PDA and iPod touch and similar devices got people/developers/musicians to start thinking; "Hmm, wouldn't it be awesome if [insert wanted functionality here]". Honestly I'm simply astounded how one cannot be interested in the development of such technology. The power really is with the people (i.e. the bedroom musician) nowadays. Make your song and distribute digitally (though, I do miss the physical interaction of browsing my vinyl/CD collection…).

    Please, Alex can't you at least stop and think what this all means to the field we love? A "toy", as you describes those possibilities, today can mean something much more "serious" tomorrow. Where do you draw the line? Is the neko a toy? Akai MPCs?

  • By the way, I've heard of people who don't use a mixing console but a toyish software that's imitating one instead. It can't be they're making music seriously!

  • vj runninghorse

    i am a professional musician and vj.

    i have been using griff on my dell pocket pc (win mobile 5)for a few years now. i use phoenix studio as well.
    in any case, these apps are very advanced sketchpads. they don't pretend to be cubase.

    i have written many songs on the subway – no room for the laptop. at home i finish on live or reason etc. i would not want to be without these things ever again!

    this site is called create digital music.
    i for one am thankful to peter for not ignoring such a useful TOOL.