Akai artist Needlz set up this MPC+computer rig with Renaissance ... in a hotel room (to get out of the house). No, no standalone MPC hardware at the moment, but 1.8's software features might help you forget that.

Akai artist Needlz set up this MPC+computer rig with Renaissance … in a hotel room (to get out of the house). No, no standalone MPC hardware at the moment, but 1.8’s software features might help you forget that.

“MPC” these days is a name on a lot of Akai stuff, down to even various MIDI controllers that happen to have pads. But to die-hard MPC users, “MPC” means a way of working. So, workflow is vitally important.

And MPC users who cut their teeth on Akai’s dedicated hardware have been waiting to see the software/controller combination really come into its own. Native Instruments’ rival Maschine got to the software game first, but now it’s a question of how the MPC can again set itself apart.

That makes any software updates a big deal. You’d be forgiven for assuming that something called “1.8” wasn’t terribly big news. But you’d be wrong – and that’s a good thing, too.

The 1.8 update released today actually does quite a lot. And so the folks working on that software got in touch with CDM to tell us more about it, in some detail. (Trivia: Akai’s Pete Goodliffe was responsible years ago for the early iOS MIDI library PGMidi. This is a very small world, indeed, when it comes to MIDI engineering.)

The banner features:

1. A better workflow for sample capture/chop/edit – yes, remember sampling? The MPC hasn’t forgotten.
2. Non-destructive chop and reverse.
3. A live looper, focusing on the machine as an instrument.
4. Pad perform mode (scales, chords, progressions).
5. You can record audio input through insert effects (again, focusing on live sampling).
6. Vintage Mode Emulation is now an insert. (Mmm, vintage-i-fy anything, then!)

Now we’re talking. Sure, that pad perform mode looks familiar with NI’s Maschine and Komplete Kontrol and Ableton’s Push offering something similar. But the implementation here is worth examining, and really focusing on actual sampling, chopping, and looping is something that could make those other tools jealous again.

For an overview, let’s first revisit the preview video from December, which Akai tell us “holds up pretty well” in terms of final shipping functionality:

Here’s a performance video (with artists Needlz & Donut?) that shows how it works – about two minutes in, you can catch the live looper in action:

I already praised the MPC software for its Direct Record functionality, introduced in 1.7. Now that’s extended to the live looper.

In particular, I was interested in how the pad perform mode works, and how flexible it can be. And while as I said Maschine does the same thing, the way this works with MPC banks is quite appealing. It also sounds hackable – so I’d love to see some CDM readers work that out. Pete tells us:

In this initial version “pad perform mode” allows you to assign, scales, stacked chords, chromatic chords and progressions to the pads.

  • “Scales”: you can assign any scale in any key starting from any octave. Since MPC pads are built around “banks” you can jump up/down banks to get to other octaves quickly. Scales available include: major, natural and harmonic minor, pentatonic major/minor, blues, chromatic, a bunch of more exotic scales, plus the modes. When using pad banks you can chose whether each bank starts on a scale root note or not (most people prefer that – not all)
  • “Chords” builds stacked chords from the selected scale. So if you select chords and pick a 1-3-5-7 pattern, each pad will play its “scale” note, plus the 3rd note in the scale up from there, plus the 5th, etc.
  • “Chromatic chords” builds a specific kind of chord from each note. So you can select major triads, minor9, sus4, etc. In this mode, all pads play that the same kind of chord at different starting notes.
  • Finally, “progressions” are the most fun. We’ve built a selection of pre-made progressions that go far beyond the three other performance types. You can transpose the progressions and octave shift them. See the attached screenshot for an idea how it lays out. We ship initially with 24 progressions. A neat touch here is they each have an associated scale type, so if you record a loop using the progressions, you can them quickly switch to scale mode and instantly be able to lay down a melody that will fit nicely.

Here’s that progression UI:

2015-02-19 Progression

So, of course, I was curious about progression customization:

In terms of future customisation, people will want to be able to record their own progressions. That’s not available in the UI in v1.8.0 but you can expand the progressions pool: expansion pack releases can install more progressions into MPC. (Behind the scenes, there’s a file format for the progressions, and a user-accessible area, so enterprising MPC geeks might already be able to figure it out).

Yes, a UI for making your own is coming – that’ll be hugely useful, I think, and we’ll see if competing drum machines/workstations can deliver something there. He does warn us we don’t want the development tool – not quite user-friendly yet. But do get hacking, someone.

Donut in the studio.

Donut in the studio.

Geoff Smith, MPC product owner, sent us some videos showing us how the looper and chopper works – hey, if you can’t come round the corner to meet, use the Internet!

Loopy about looping. It’s impressive stuff. I think the looper alone could convince people to switch to the MPC – seriously. The loop syncs up with the sequence. So for instrumentalists, this means you can just jam over top of a sequence, and everything just fits in. There’s easy access to that non-destructive reverse. It’s really beautiful; I could absolutely see playing with this.

Clarification: I will add as folks did bring up Ableton’s Looper in comments, one deficit of the MPC looper is that you can’t use loop length to set master tempo – that is, “first loop” capability as you get on a looper pedal. This was much-demanded by Ableton users and they added it. Still, it’s notable to have a looper integrated with a drum machine workflow, as that’s meaningful to a lot of people.

slicing

Chop audio live. You can slice in real-time as the audio plays. It’s really compelling: it’s something you might actually practice as an instrument. You don’t have to go into some other mode or go menu diving.

I’ll say it here: this is, bar none, the best slice workflow of any hardware or software presently on the market. Native Instruments, Elektron, Ableton, and the rest should consider this the instrument to beat – not to copy, necessarily, but as a standard for what’s possible.

Geoff called it “gestural,” and that’s not a bad way to describe it. It appears you can really learn to finesse start and stop points, and because it’s all happening as you play, this is something you could do live onstage (if you’re not too shy). And even in the studio, it means you’re playing more than producing, which is a philosophy I can always get behind.

Clarification: Now, some caveats. First, I should say, yes, it’s possible to do real-time or non-destructive chopping in other tools, though I do like the implementation here as it can be more performative – it’ll be easier to compare when Akai finish their video demo for us later this week.

And because I do value sampling, it’s worth saying that sampling directly into chop:

You cannot sample straight into chop.
The Sample is first recorded in Sample Record/Looper mode, then you can enter Sample Edit chop, however the sample doesn’t have to be assigned to a pad yet, it exists in the project sample pool and anything from that pool can be edited.

I also wanted to know what the team thought about third-party firmwares (hello, JJOS) in creating this software. Here’s Pete:

It would be insane not to look at how other people have implemented things. But we’re definitely not copying anyone, and we’re not always trying to “compete” on a feature-by-feature basis per-se. MPC is its own kind of instrument and we’re carving out it’s specific niche.

For example, with NDC with obviously looked at how previous hardware samplers have approached the problem, including oldskool JJOS MPC firmwares, and some of the great Roland and Ensoniq sampling products. We’ve also looked at other software solutions, including Maschine, ESX24, etc. Many of these are great, in their own ways. And they also all have their limitations. Based on that, we designed NDC implementations that really work for MPC and provide the facilities that our users need.

We’re also looking back at some of the older MPC models and bringing back parts of those workflows that we don’t currently support. For example, pad sample offset is directly inspired by the MPC 4000.

For now, there are two hardware controllers that come with this MPC software. One is the enormous Renaissance – chock full of lots of audio I/O. The other is the ultra-slim MPC Studio (which assumes you’ll bring your own audio interface). I will say, the hardware on these two units are great; the aesthetic may not be for everyone, but the builds are solid and it’s some of the nicer hardware InMusic is putting out at the moment. I’d opt for the Renaissance, despite the bigger size – you get loads of audio I/O, the display, more dedicated controls, and great pads. I just wish Maschine Studio had the Akai’s audio I/O (cough), and that Akai had Maschine Studio’s screen, but, well, you can’t have everything.

The gap has been principally software, but that’s why this update is big news.

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You’ll find more information and the fresh downloads on those product pages:

http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpcstudio#downloads

http://www.akaipro.com/product/mpcrenaissance#downloads

What’s next? 1.8.1 is coming, which Pete describes as a “beast” – as in, a big development effort.

Pete also tells us there’s “annoyingly” a lot on the roadmap he can’t discuss. So if you’ve been waiting for more on the APC front, stay tuned to CDM. Yes, I may live practically on top of some of the folks engineering a certain rival product, but I’m keen to watch this competition pan out. And I’m really gratified to see the MPC software coming together as something distinct: it’s turning the MPC computer combination into the kind of live performance instrument that the Akai MPC and Roger Linn inspired in the first place.

  • Are those Sour Patch Watermelons connected to the MPC via MIDI?

  • Are those Sour Patch Watermelons connected to the MPC via MIDI?

  • Are those Sour Patch Watermelons connected to the MPC via MIDI?

  • spoilt_victorian_child

    Yea, only had a brief play around but 1.8 seems truly a worthy update. Work flow and live capabilities were the reasons I stopped carrying my MPC Studio around a while back, however this might just change all that.

  • spoilt_victorian_child

    Yea, only had a brief play around but 1.8 seems truly a worthy update. Work flow and live capabilities were the reasons I stopped carrying my MPC Studio around a while back, however this might just change all that.

  • spoilt_victorian_child

    Yea, only had a brief play around but 1.8 seems truly a worthy update. Work flow and live capabilities were the reasons I stopped carrying my MPC Studio around a while back, however this might just change all that.

  • #THEBLACKRICFLAIR™

    I’ll get right to it. There is “NOTHING ON THE MARKET” that can compare to this. I have dreamed of being able to chop in real time for years. And we finally have it. And it works exactly the way i have always wanted. We also have BPM detection taken from the 2000 xl and it works flawlessly. The LOOPER is another great addition, as well as Pad offset and the ability to play chords on the pads. Akai has always been #1 with their products. In the beginning i was against switching from their hardware to software. But in the end i decided to do it. I have always had faith in Akai. It took a while but they got it right. Now once again they will dominate. There is nothing that you can’t do musically with this. There is NO COMPETITION NOW. AKAI IS THE COMPETITION. I am glad to be able to witness History. The future is bright for Akai. Shout out to Pete Goodliffe, Geoff Smith, Dan, the entire akai team and all the beta testers. My loyalty is with Akai. It will never change. Respect to u all

    • foljs

      In the immortal words of Public Enemy: Don’t believe the hype…

      • #THEBLACKRICFLAIR™

        When you find something better you “DIRECT” me to it. This is a GameChanger

        • Mutis Mayfield

          Only for regular mpc users which hasn’t tried other ways to the the job. Realtime slicing? Any dj app could do cue points and you can scratch the sample, timestretch/pitchshift etc…
          Looping? Try loopyHd with different lenghts, tempo control (with timestretching)… Or hardware loopers with an mpc1000!

          If samplr app add midi input for slices… But it is understandable to keep the control from touchscreen with has more possibilities to mangle the audio with the extra modes… Not my cup of tea (I love rubber pads too) but inspiring, creative… New!

          A matter of pov approach, I supose…

          • sfdc

            you seem to like the sequencer in the mpc 1000, don’t get why you don’t like this one, it can do what the 1000 can do and more, and yes the samplr app is nice but it’s not a midi sequencer you’re just getting farther and farther away from comparisons that make sense. dj products with cue points is nothing like a midi sequencer with a sample slicer and sample editing.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            It is easy to understand…
            First my argue was against “workflow” (as ubercool) due it isn’t nowadays due to…
            It is not standalone sequencer (ouch) and…
            bulky (this model, not the thinners) so…
            An ipad could do better and fast the job(s) with dedicated apps more powerful than even the classic mpc1000 with jjOS but… It is a matter of taste. That’s why bought the tfp and no a maschine or new mpcs.

            Samplr is not midi sequencer but has looping and automation, direct control etc… That’s to me a description of “fresh” and “nowadays” right implementation. Making an mpc which is not standalone itself was the worst decission from numark and the fact that they are planning implement somekind of “windows tablet/surface” in the next gen talks by itself.

            From wow to irrelevant, that was my point.

          • sfdc

            one thing we definitely agree on is that their worst mistake was going the computer route, if they would have gone truly stand alone but made it a feature that you could also hook up the the computer app and do all of this stuff then that would have been cool, but to fore go the stand alone altogether was a silly move at best. they were thinking too much about what native instruments was doing and didn’t understand that they were already ahead.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            Completely agreed.

  • #THEBLACKRICFLAIR™

    I’ll get right to it. There is “NOTHING ON THE MARKET” that can compare to this. I have dreamed of being able to chop in real time for years. And we finally have it. And it works exactly the way i have always wanted. We also have BPM detection taken from the 2000 xl and it works flawlessly. The LOOPER is another great addition, as well as Pad offset and the ability to play chords on the pads. Akai has always been #1 with their products. In the beginning i was against switching from their hardware to software. But in the end i decided to do it. I have always had faith in Akai. It took a while but they got it right. Now once again they will dominate. There is nothing that you can’t do musically with this. There is NO COMPETITION NOW. AKAI IS THE COMPETITION. I am glad to be able to witness History. The future is bright for Akai. Shout out to Pete Goodliffe, Geoff Smith, Dan, the entire akai team and all the beta testers. My loyalty is with Akai. It will never change. Respect to u all

    • foljs

      In the immortal words of Public Enemy: Don’t believe the hype…

      • #THEBLACKRICFLAIR™

        When you find something better you “DIRECT” me to it. This is a GameChanger

        • Mutis Mayfield

          Only for regular mpc users which hasn’t tried other ways to the the job. Realtime slicing? Any dj app could do cue points and you can scratch the sample, timestretch/pitchshift etc…
          Looping? Try loopyHd with different lenghts, tempo control (with timestretching)… Or hardware loopers with an mpc1000!

          If samplr app add midi input for slices… But it is understandable to keep the control from touchscreen with has more possibilities to mangle the audio with the extra modes… Not my cup of tea (I love rubber pads too) but inspiring, creative… New!

          A matter of pov approach, I supose…

          • sfdc

            you seem to like the sequencer in the mpc 1000, don’t get why you don’t like this one, it can do what the 1000 can do and more, and yes the samplr app is nice but it’s not a midi sequencer you’re just getting farther and farther away from comparisons that make sense. dj products with cue points is nothing like a midi sequencer with a sample slicer and sample editing.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            It is easy to understand…
            First my argue was against “workflow” (as ubercool) due it isn’t nowadays due to…
            It is not standalone sequencer (ouch) and…
            bulky (this model, not the thinners) so…
            An ipad could do better and fast the job(s) with dedicated apps more powerful than even the classic mpc1000 with jjOS but… It is a matter of taste. That’s why bought the tfp and no a maschine or new mpcs.

            Samplr is not midi sequencer but has looping and automation, direct control etc… That’s to me a description of “fresh” and “nowadays” right implementation. Making an mpc which is not standalone itself was the worst decission from numark and the fact that they are planning implement somekind of “windows tablet/surface” in the next gen talks by itself.

            From wow to irrelevant, that was my point.

          • sfdc

            one thing we definitely agree on is that their worst mistake was going the computer route, if they would have gone truly stand alone but made it a feature that you could also hook up the the computer app and do all of this stuff then that would have been cool, but to fore go the stand alone altogether was a silly move at best. they were thinking too much about what native instruments was doing and didn’t understand that they were already ahead.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            Completely agreed.

  • #THEBLACKRICFLAIR™

    I’ll get right to it. There is “NOTHING ON THE MARKET” that can compare to this. I have dreamed of being able to chop in real time for years. And we finally have it. And it works exactly the way i have always wanted. We also have BPM detection taken from the 2000 xl and it works flawlessly. The LOOPER is another great addition, as well as Pad offset and the ability to play chords on the pads. Akai has always been #1 with their products. In the beginning i was against switching from their hardware to software. But in the end i decided to do it. I have always had faith in Akai. It took a while but they got it right. Now once again they will dominate. There is nothing that you can’t do musically with this. There is NO COMPETITION NOW. AKAI IS THE COMPETITION. I am glad to be able to witness History. The future is bright for Akai. Shout out to Pete Goodliffe, Geoff Smith, Dan, the entire akai team and all the beta testers. My loyalty is with Akai. It will never change. Respect to u all

    • foljs

      In the immortal words of Public Enemy: Don’t believe the hype…

      • #THEBLACKRICFLAIR™

        When you find something better you “DIRECT” me to it. This is a GameChanger

        • Mutis Mayfield

          Only for regular mpc users which hasn’t tried other ways to the the job. Realtime slicing? Any dj app could do cue points and you can scratch the sample, timestretch/pitchshift etc…
          Looping? Try loopyHd with different lenghts, tempo control (with timestretching)… Or hardware loopers with an mpc1000!

          If samplr app add midi input for slices… But it is understandable to keep the control from touchscreen with has more possibilities to mangle the audio with the extra modes… Not my cup of tea (I love rubber pads too) but inspiring, creative… New!

          A matter of pov approach, I supose…

          • sfdc

            you seem to like the sequencer in the mpc 1000, don’t get why you don’t like this one, it can do what the 1000 can do and more, and yes the samplr app is nice but it’s not a midi sequencer you’re just getting farther and farther away from comparisons that make sense. dj products with cue points is nothing like a midi sequencer with a sample slicer and sample editing.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            It is easy to understand…
            First my argue was against “workflow” (as ubercool) due it isn’t nowadays due to…
            It is not standalone sequencer (ouch) and…
            bulky (this model, not the thinners) so…
            An ipad could do better and fast the job(s) with dedicated apps more powerful than even the classic mpc1000 with jjOS but… It is a matter of taste. That’s why bought the tfp and no a maschine or new mpcs.

            Samplr is not midi sequencer but has looping and automation, direct control etc… That’s to me a description of “fresh” and “nowadays” right implementation. Making an mpc which is not standalone itself was the worst decission from numark and the fact that they are planning implement somekind of “windows tablet/surface” in the next gen talks by itself.

            From wow to irrelevant, that was my point.

          • sfdc

            one thing we definitely agree on is that their worst mistake was going the computer route, if they would have gone truly stand alone but made it a feature that you could also hook up the the computer app and do all of this stuff then that would have been cool, but to fore go the stand alone altogether was a silly move at best. they were thinking too much about what native instruments was doing and didn’t understand that they were already ahead.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            Completely agreed.

  • Aiki

    While these updates do look like fun until they are available in a standalone hardware package I really don’t care. I can just as well do all this stuff in a DAW and then transfer the results to my mpc1000 for live use. No laptops on stage for me.

    • foljs

      “””No laptops on stage for me.”””

      Hello, 2000 called….

      • Aiki

        If you want to look like you’re doing office work on an excel spreadsheet when you’re on stage that is your own affair.

        Personally I consider myself a musician NOT a “producer” (IE: someone who 95% of the time cant actually play any instruments). I bring instruments on stage never laptops.

        • Oh, I definitely hear the call for standalone hardware. I’m curious to see what is next on the Akai roadmap there.

          • Aiki

            Well if the iMPC pro had velocity switched layering that would be a good start 🙂

          • sfdc

            two things are very clear, akai are still developing stand alone mpcs, we’ve seen the proof of this, and they are still developing features for their current hybrid mpcs. Since the truly stand alone mpcs are coming later in this chronology I would assume that they are going to take this mpc culture full circle and when their new stand alone mpc comes out it would make sense that it can do what the other mpcs before it could do and have new features as well…. take the looping feature i doubt they will not include that feature in their future stand alone mpc…..

  • Aiki

    While these updates do look like fun until they are available in a standalone hardware package I really don’t care. I can just as well do all this stuff in a DAW and then transfer the results to my mpc1000 for live use. No laptops on stage for me.

    • foljs

      “””No laptops on stage for me.”””

      Hello, 2000 called….

      • Aiki

        If you want to look like you’re doing office work on an excel spreadsheet when you’re on stage that is your own affair.

        Personally I consider myself a musician NOT a “producer” (IE: someone who 95% of the time cant actually play any instruments). I bring instruments on stage never laptops.

        • Oh, I definitely hear the call for standalone hardware. I’m curious to see what is next on the Akai roadmap there.

          • Aiki

            Well if the iMPC pro had velocity switched layering that would be a good start 🙂

          • sfdc

            two things are very clear, akai are still developing stand alone mpcs, we’ve seen the proof of this, and they are still developing features for their current hybrid mpcs. Since the truly stand alone mpcs are coming later in this chronology I would assume that they are going to take this mpc culture full circle and when their new stand alone mpc comes out it would make sense that it can do what the other mpcs before it could do and have new features as well…. take the looping feature i doubt they will not include that feature in their future stand alone mpc…..

  • Aiki

    While these updates do look like fun until they are available in a standalone hardware package I really don’t care. I can just as well do all this stuff in a DAW and then transfer the results to my mpc1000 for live use. No laptops on stage for me.

    • foljs

      “””No laptops on stage for me.”””

      Hello, 2000 called….

      • Aiki

        If you want to look like you’re doing office work on an excel spreadsheet when you’re on stage that is your own affair.

        Personally I consider myself a musician NOT a “producer” (IE: someone who 95% of the time cant actually play any instruments). I bring instruments on stage never laptops.

        • Oh, I definitely hear the call for standalone hardware. I’m curious to see what is next on the Akai roadmap there.

          • Aiki

            Well if the iMPC pro had velocity switched layering that would be a good start 🙂

          • sfdc

            two things are very clear, akai are still developing stand alone mpcs, we’ve seen the proof of this, and they are still developing features for their current hybrid mpcs. Since the truly stand alone mpcs are coming later in this chronology I would assume that they are going to take this mpc culture full circle and when their new stand alone mpc comes out it would make sense that it can do what the other mpcs before it could do and have new features as well…. take the looping feature i doubt they will not include that feature in their future stand alone mpc…..

  • boboter

    Wow. This is the first time, I’m actually thinking of trying out one of the new MPCs. Can anyone share some info on the CPU load? Of course it depends on individual projects but is the MPC software generally CPU friendly? Thanks.

  • boboter

    Wow. This is the first time, I’m actually thinking of trying out one of the new MPCs. Can anyone share some info on the CPU load? Of course it depends on individual projects but is the MPC software generally CPU friendly? Thanks.

  • boboter

    Wow. This is the first time, I’m actually thinking of trying out one of the new MPCs. Can anyone share some info on the CPU load? Of course it depends on individual projects but is the MPC software generally CPU friendly? Thanks.

  • gary

    Long time hardware MPC owner here…I own two, but also use Maschine and Ableton regularly. I’m glad Akai hasn’t abandoned the hybrid stuff. 1.8 seems like a nice update but overall not that impressive to me. If anything they seem to be playing catch up.

    1. Ableton’s looper is way better. It can set the global tempo by the loop length, so you’re not tied to playing to a click track. You create the tempo with your first loop pass. You can also midi assign most of the looper parameters in Ableton, so you can use a foot pedal, keeping both hands on your instrument instead of reaching for a small MPC chicklet key.

    2. I’m pretty sure Maschine’s sample chop has been non-destructive for ages. I can go in, chop a loop and apply it to a group. If I change my mind, hit sample button and go back to slice tab, I can re-slice at a different amount and assign it to the same group or a new one. It’s not erasing the original loop.

    I will say the amount of progressions in Akai’s new chord mode interests me. Maschine has only 16 chord sets.

    • sfdc

      you can do the same with the akai non-destruct chop, and comparing the looper to ableton is kind of weird, ableton isn’t a dedicated hybrid groove box like maschine or the mpc, it’s a different paradigm, you might as well compare the mpc to a loop pedal or any other looper for that matter if we’re not keeping within the context.

      • foljs

        The context is looping. With a laptop and Live you can be as portable as the MPC. So if your interest is looping, it makes sense to compare them.

        • sfdc

          no it doesn’t unless you compare all of it, it’s great that you include a laptop in your comparison but then why don’t you include the controller…………. because you can’t, ableton doesn’t have the same kind of controller that maschine and the mpc have, neither does a loop pedal, neither do any of the loop apps that you can load up and use on your pc or mac and there are allot of them…

          • Mutis Mayfield

            You should take your own advices and understand the people who loop and the criticism about this.
            If I compare grid pads, slicing cappabilities and looping in realtime the actual computer dependent mpcs are the worst solution because they are in the middle of nowhere…
            Old mpcs were great machines but in the hybrid game they should hurry up a bit if they want to be considered relevant. They aren’t well focused into studio neither the live (if you play them with desktop)

            How easy is share projects between the desktop app and the impc ipad app? Maybe I’m missing the point once again… But the worst drawback is the faulty of internal sequencer (and timing, midi clock…) which the old ones have.

          • sfdc

            what are you talking about, those sequencers are known for their solid timing, and also what slicing are you talking about, the sample slicing in this app surpasses the maschine and ableton. what sample slicer is it that you think is better than this one?

          • Mutis Mayfield

            It depends on workflow… To me the best slicer in the market is the Roland VariOS/vsynth xt (due realtime timestretching/pitchshifting cappabilities and standalone box), samplr app as Indescribed in other comments, Ableton drumracks, reason octorex…

            But because I’m more focused to live than prroducing (that’s about looping and workflow again) so there is not only the potential or features it is also the easytocontrol more than automation… Realtime perform!

            If I want to produce I will take the garageband ios => garageband osx => logic pro x route. It is cheap, expandable, well integrated in my music composition ecosystem…

            Even for the live I can get similar route with logic remote => mainstage 3 using my ipad as screen for the mac mini! (You need a wifi adhoc or old smartphone as router) or splashtop 2… And I still have a dedicated looper (the ipad itself with loopy hd).

            All my “important stuff” fits inside a little flightcase and I can left the tfp in home and carry an lpd8 or similar with me. I will love something like arturia sparkle standalone or mpc fly with step seq…

            A matter of taste but in my humble opinion, the news from desktop software aren’t so “big”. Mpc need to improve their product the same Maschine need to “bridge” traktor… To blur the line between producing and giging. That’s the lesson from Ableton.

    • That’s a good comparison; I agree. I think the Ableton Looper is worth mentioning, yes, though it’s different having a looper inside this sort of workflow. Concerned on foot pedal capabilities, though – that’s huge. I’ll ask about that.

  • gary

    Long time hardware MPC owner here…I own two, but also use Maschine and Ableton regularly. I’m glad Akai hasn’t abandoned the hybrid stuff. 1.8 seems like a nice update but overall not that impressive to me. If anything they seem to be playing catch up.

    1. Ableton’s looper is way better. It can set the global tempo by the loop length, so you’re not tied to playing to a click track. You create the tempo with your first loop pass. You can also midi assign most of the looper parameters in Ableton, so you can use a foot pedal, keeping both hands on your instrument instead of reaching for a small MPC chicklet key.

    2. I’m pretty sure Maschine’s sample chop has been non-destructive for ages. I can go in, chop a loop and apply it to a group. If I change my mind, hit sample button and go back to slice tab, I can re-slice at a different amount and assign it to the same group or a new one. It’s not erasing the original loop.

    I will say the amount of progressions in Akai’s new chord mode interests me. Maschine has only 16 chord sets.

    • sfdc

      you can do the same with the akai non-destruct chop, and comparing the looper to ableton is kind of weird, ableton isn’t a dedicated hybrid groove box like maschine or the mpc, it’s a different paradigm, you might as well compare the mpc to a loop pedal or any other looper for that matter if we’re not keeping within the context.

      • foljs

        The context is looping. With a laptop and Live you can be as portable as the MPC. So if your interest is looping, it makes sense to compare them.

        • sfdc

          no it doesn’t unless you compare all of it, it’s great that you include a laptop in your comparison but then why don’t you include the controller…………. because you can’t, ableton doesn’t have the same kind of controller that maschine and the mpc have, neither does a loop pedal, neither do any of the loop apps that you can load up and use on your pc or mac and there are allot of them…

          • Mutis Mayfield

            You should take your own advices and understand the people who loop and the criticism about this.
            If I compare grid pads, slicing cappabilities and looping in realtime the actual computer dependent mpcs are the worst solution because they are in the middle of nowhere…
            Old mpcs were great machines but in the hybrid game they should hurry up a bit if they want to be considered relevant. They aren’t well focused into studio neither the live (if you play them with desktop)

            How easy is share projects between the desktop app and the impc ipad app? Maybe I’m missing the point once again… But the worst drawback is the faulty of internal sequencer (and timing, midi clock…) which the old ones have.

          • sfdc

            what are you talking about, those sequencers are known for their solid timing, and also what slicing are you talking about, the sample slicing in this app surpasses the maschine and ableton. what sample slicer is it that you think is better than this one?

          • Mutis Mayfield

            It depends on workflow… To me the best slicer in the market is the Roland VariOS/vsynth xt (due realtime timestretching/pitchshifting cappabilities and standalone box), samplr app as Indescribed in other comments, Ableton drumracks, reason octorex…

            But because I’m more focused to live than prroducing (that’s about looping and workflow again) so there is not only the potential or features it is also the easytocontrol more than automation… Realtime perform!

            If I want to produce I will take the garageband ios => garageband osx => logic pro x route. It is cheap, expandable, well integrated in my music composition ecosystem…

            Even for the live I can get similar route with logic remote => mainstage 3 using my ipad as screen for the mac mini! (You need a wifi adhoc or old smartphone as router) or splashtop 2… And I still have a dedicated looper (the ipad itself with loopy hd).

            All my “important stuff” fits inside a little flightcase and I can left the tfp in home and carry an lpd8 or similar with me. I will love something like arturia sparkle standalone or mpc fly with step seq…

            A matter of taste but in my humble opinion, the news from desktop software aren’t so “big”. Mpc need to improve their product the same Maschine need to “bridge” traktor… To blur the line between producing and giging. That’s the lesson from Ableton.

    • That’s a good comparison; I agree. I think the Ableton Looper is worth mentioning, yes, though it’s different having a looper inside this sort of workflow. Concerned on foot pedal capabilities, though – that’s huge. I’ll ask about that.

  • gary

    Long time hardware MPC owner here…I own two, but also use Maschine and Ableton regularly. I’m glad Akai hasn’t abandoned the hybrid stuff. 1.8 seems like a nice update but overall not that impressive to me. If anything they seem to be playing catch up.

    1. Ableton’s looper is way better. It can set the global tempo by the loop length, so you’re not tied to playing to a click track. You create the tempo with your first loop pass. You can also midi assign most of the looper parameters in Ableton, so you can use a foot pedal, keeping both hands on your instrument instead of reaching for a small MPC chicklet key.

    2. I’m pretty sure Maschine’s sample chop has been non-destructive for ages. I can go in, chop a loop and apply it to a group. If I change my mind, hit sample button and go back to slice tab, I can re-slice at a different amount and assign it to the same group or a new one. It’s not erasing the original loop.

    I will say the amount of progressions in Akai’s new chord mode interests me. Maschine has only 16 chord sets.

    • sfdc

      you can do the same with the akai non-destruct chop, and comparing the looper to ableton is kind of weird, ableton isn’t a dedicated hybrid groove box like maschine or the mpc, it’s a different paradigm, you might as well compare the mpc to a loop pedal or any other looper for that matter if we’re not keeping within the context.

      • foljs

        The context is looping. With a laptop and Live you can be as portable as the MPC. So if your interest is looping, it makes sense to compare them.

        • sfdc

          no it doesn’t unless you compare all of it, it’s great that you include a laptop in your comparison but then why don’t you include the controller…………. because you can’t, ableton doesn’t have the same kind of controller that maschine and the mpc have, neither does a loop pedal, neither do any of the loop apps that you can load up and use on your pc or mac and there are allot of them…

          • Mutis Mayfield

            You should take your own advices and understand the people who loop and the criticism about this.
            If I compare grid pads, slicing cappabilities and looping in realtime the actual computer dependent mpcs are the worst solution because they are in the middle of nowhere…
            Old mpcs were great machines but in the hybrid game they should hurry up a bit if they want to be considered relevant. They aren’t well focused into studio neither the live (if you play them with desktop)

            How easy is share projects between the desktop app and the impc ipad app? Maybe I’m missing the point once again… But the worst drawback is the faulty of internal sequencer (and timing, midi clock…) which the old ones have.

          • sfdc

            what are you talking about, those sequencers are known for their solid timing, and also what slicing are you talking about, the sample slicing in this app surpasses the maschine and ableton. what sample slicer is it that you think is better than this one?

          • Mutis Mayfield

            It depends on workflow… To me the best slicer in the market is the Roland VariOS/vsynth xt (due realtime timestretching/pitchshifting cappabilities and standalone box), samplr app as Indescribed in other comments, Ableton drumracks, reason octorex…

            But because I’m more focused to live than prroducing (that’s about looping and workflow again) so there is not only the potential or features it is also the easytocontrol more than automation… Realtime perform!

            If I want to produce I will take the garageband ios => garageband osx => logic pro x route. It is cheap, expandable, well integrated in my music composition ecosystem…

            Even for the live I can get similar route with logic remote => mainstage 3 using my ipad as screen for the mac mini! (You need a wifi adhoc or old smartphone as router) or splashtop 2… And I still have a dedicated looper (the ipad itself with loopy hd).

            All my “important stuff” fits inside a little flightcase and I can left the tfp in home and carry an lpd8 or similar with me. I will love something like arturia sparkle standalone or mpc fly with step seq…

            A matter of taste but in my humble opinion, the news from desktop software aren’t so “big”. Mpc need to improve their product the same Maschine need to “bridge” traktor… To blur the line between producing and giging. That’s the lesson from Ableton.

    • That’s a good comparison; I agree. I think the Ableton Looper is worth mentioning, yes, though it’s different having a looper inside this sort of workflow. Concerned on foot pedal capabilities, though – that’s huge. I’ll ask about that.

  • Raffa van der Koont

    Its still a lot of money for some knobs, buttons and pads, even if does have a fancy screen. I think Akai lost their way when they ditched the stand alone MPC for a USB controller.

    • Mutis Mayfield

      Until they release the next gen with a dedicated tablet (pray for detachable one…) and making the old units compatible with it (like the new screens released for the NS7mk3) but meanwhile why not to do the same with the ipad mpc app?
      Best integration over the different soft will be interesting…

  • Raffa van der Koont

    Its still a lot of money for some knobs, buttons and pads, even if does have a fancy screen. I think Akai lost their way when they ditched the stand alone MPC for a USB controller.

    • Mutis Mayfield

      Until they release the next gen with a dedicated tablet (pray for detachable one…) and making the old units compatible with it (like the new screens released for the NS7mk3) but meanwhile why not to do the same with the ipad mpc app?
      Best integration over the different soft will be interesting…

  • Raffa van der Koont

    Its still a lot of money for some knobs, buttons and pads, even if does have a fancy screen. I think Akai lost their way when they ditched the stand alone MPC for a USB controller.

    • Mutis Mayfield

      Until they release the next gen with a dedicated tablet (pray for detachable one…) and making the old units compatible with it (like the new screens released for the NS7mk3) but meanwhile why not to do the same with the ipad mpc app?
      Best integration over the different soft will be interesting…

  • heinrichz

    I’m not trying to knock the MPC here but just looking at this old fashioned display makes me a bit dizzy…compare that to the Maschine Studio’s Amoled display. Furthermore i dont think the nondestructive sample chops are a big deal or even a good idea in the workflow. Personally i prefer the ‘apply to’ function in Maschine that discards the unused portion of the sample (decision making) for a more efficient use of the display function, mapping each slice to its own sound where you then can set loop points individually as well as do destructive editing such as timestretching etc.
    Or am i missing something here?

    • sfdc

      yes you are missing allot, all of that is possible there are just additional options that maschine does not have, so that users like you will be satisfied as well as other types of users best of all, these options don’t get in the way of one another so if you’re not interested in using them they still won’t cramp your style. As far as those great screens on the maschine studio, they are absolutely great the only problem is they are by far the greatest feature on the unit. which would you rather have an old fashioned display or an old fashioned midi sequencer that makes you go through a longwinded work around just to split a track in two?

      • heinrichz

        hey you can actually use those displays for mixing with very acurate metering, so you wont even need to look at your computer for this. navigation with groups and sounds makes it possible to easily navigate big projects with more than 32 tracks..

        • sfdc

          you’re still using the only sequencer in the modern day first world that can’t even split those 32 sequencer tracks. A little consistency across the board would go a long way in your comparisons of the two instruments. the best thing about mixing in maschine is that you are doing most of your composition elsewhere in another app. it’s quite easy to mix when you’re only missing a loop that has no variations for the most part. you don’t need another sequencer to compose a song with the akai you can turn your loops into anything you want right there, you can split anything, you can merge anything, you can slow down anything, you can speed up anything, you can write a song, and you can mix it with 3 mixers. do the screens look as good as the maschines screens, not in a million years but since you actually have the tools to compose a song in the app you don’t care, you just use your ears more than your eyes and make music.

    • I believe non-destructive edits are also possible.

      I think we need a more complete review. I do agree – the displays on Maschine Studio beat these. On the other hand, the pads on the Renaissance some folks find marginally better than Maschine’s (mkII/Studio), and I wish Maschine Studio had audio I/O. And NI hasn’t really fully exploited what those screens can do, either (big pictures of your sound packs doesn’t count).

      These are two intensely competitive products. Akai was late to the game, and early releases of the MPC software showed it. I think they’ve now closed a lot of that gap, and that makes life more interesting.

      — though we haven’t seen what’s next from NI, so expect this competition to continue.

  • heinrichz

    I’m not trying to knock the MPC here but just looking at this old fashioned display makes me a bit dizzy…compare that to the Maschine Studio’s Amoled display. Furthermore i dont think the nondestructive sample chops are a big deal or even a good idea in the workflow. Personally i prefer the ‘apply to’ function in Maschine that discards the unused portion of the sample (decision making) for a more efficient use of the display function, mapping each slice to its own sound where you then can set loop points individually as well as do destructive editing such as timestretching etc.
    Or am i missing something here?

    • sfdc

      yes you are missing allot, all of that is possible there are just additional options that maschine does not have, so that users like you will be satisfied as well as other types of users best of all, these options don’t get in the way of one another so if you’re not interested in using them they still won’t cramp your style. As far as those great screens on the maschine studio, they are absolutely great the only problem is they are by far the greatest feature on the unit. which would you rather have an old fashioned display or an old fashioned midi sequencer that makes you go through a longwinded work around just to split a track in two?

      • heinrichz

        hey you can actually use those displays for mixing with very acurate metering, so you wont even need to look at your computer for this. navigation with groups and sounds makes it possible to easily navigate big projects with more than 32 tracks..

        • sfdc

          you’re still using the only sequencer in the modern day first world that can’t even split those 32 sequencer tracks. A little consistency across the board would go a long way in your comparisons of the two instruments. the best thing about mixing in maschine is that you are doing most of your composition elsewhere in another app. it’s quite easy to mix when you’re only missing a loop that has no variations for the most part. you don’t need another sequencer to compose a song with the akai you can turn your loops into anything you want right there, you can split anything, you can merge anything, you can slow down anything, you can speed up anything, you can write a song, and you can mix it with 3 mixers. do the screens look as good as the maschines screens, not in a million years but since you actually have the tools to compose a song in the app you don’t care, you just use your ears more than your eyes and make music.

    • I believe non-destructive edits are also possible.

      I think we need a more complete review. I do agree – the displays on Maschine Studio beat these. On the other hand, the pads on the Renaissance some folks find marginally better than Maschine’s (mkII/Studio), and I wish Maschine Studio had audio I/O. And NI hasn’t really fully exploited what those screens can do, either (big pictures of your sound packs doesn’t count).

      These are two intensely competitive products. Akai was late to the game, and early releases of the MPC software showed it. I think they’ve now closed a lot of that gap, and that makes life more interesting.

      — though we haven’t seen what’s next from NI, so expect this competition to continue.

  • heinrichz

    I’m not trying to knock the MPC here but just looking at this old fashioned display makes me a bit dizzy…compare that to the Maschine Studio’s Amoled display. Furthermore i dont think the nondestructive sample chops are a big deal or even a good idea in the workflow. Personally i prefer the ‘apply to’ function in Maschine that discards the unused portion of the sample (decision making) for a more efficient use of the display function, mapping each slice to its own sound where you then can set loop points individually as well as do destructive editing such as timestretching etc.
    Or am i missing something here?

    • sfdc

      yes you are missing allot, all of that is possible there are just additional options that maschine does not have, so that users like you will be satisfied as well as other types of users best of all, these options don’t get in the way of one another so if you’re not interested in using them they still won’t cramp your style. As far as those great screens on the maschine studio, they are absolutely great the only problem is they are by far the greatest feature on the unit. which would you rather have an old fashioned display or an old fashioned midi sequencer that makes you go through a longwinded work around just to split a track in two?

      • heinrichz

        hey you can actually use those displays for mixing with very acurate metering, so you wont even need to look at your computer for this. navigation with groups and sounds makes it possible to easily navigate big projects with more than 32 tracks..

        • sfdc

          you’re still using the only sequencer in the modern day first world that can’t even split those 32 sequencer tracks. A little consistency across the board would go a long way in your comparisons of the two instruments. the best thing about mixing in maschine is that you are doing most of your composition elsewhere in another app. it’s quite easy to mix when you’re only missing a loop that has no variations for the most part. you don’t need another sequencer to compose a song with the akai you can turn your loops into anything you want right there, you can split anything, you can merge anything, you can slow down anything, you can speed up anything, you can write a song, and you can mix it with 3 mixers. do the screens look as good as the maschines screens, not in a million years but since you actually have the tools to compose a song in the app you don’t care, you just use your ears more than your eyes and make music.

    • I believe non-destructive edits are also possible.

      I think we need a more complete review. I do agree – the displays on Maschine Studio beat these. On the other hand, the pads on the Renaissance some folks find marginally better than Maschine’s (mkII/Studio), and I wish Maschine Studio had audio I/O. And NI hasn’t really fully exploited what those screens can do, either (big pictures of your sound packs doesn’t count).

      These are two intensely competitive products. Akai was late to the game, and early releases of the MPC software showed it. I think they’ve now closed a lot of that gap, and that makes life more interesting.

      — though we haven’t seen what’s next from NI, so expect this competition to continue.

  • Avene

    Wow, non destructive chop and reverse. I had a Kurzweil K2000 that could do that back in 1993! And the sampling features in that were just an add on option. Its sequencer could also quantize events on one track to live recorded events on another track. Maybe Akai could implement that feature too sometime within the next 20 years. Anyway, I’m not complaining, just saying.

    • No, that’s right, it’s worth saying this stuff is expected in hardware…

  • Avene

    Wow, non destructive chop and reverse. I had a Kurzweil K2000 that could do that back in 1993! And the sampling features in that were just an add on option. Its sequencer could also quantize events on one track to live recorded events on another track. Maybe Akai could implement that feature too sometime within the next 20 years. Anyway, I’m not complaining, just saying.

    • No, that’s right, it’s worth saying this stuff is expected in hardware…

  • Avene

    Wow, non destructive chop and reverse. I had a Kurzweil K2000 that could do that back in 1993! And the sampling features in that were just an add on option. Its sequencer could also quantize events on one track to live recorded events on another track. Maybe Akai could implement that feature too sometime within the next 20 years. Anyway, I’m not complaining, just saying.

    • No, that’s right, it’s worth saying this stuff is expected in hardware…

  • Mushroom Jesus

    as a traditional mpc user growing up on mlc 2000xl and then owning every mlc under the sun. the 1.8 upgrade is not that special.. coming from a guy who only samples vinyl and make real hiphop. i love the idea of using the computer for loading my loops and workflow and what not i also love that i can use plugins and stuff. but the new features in 1.8 are just hiding changes that need to be addressed like automation and simple features that any daw already does. i got a mpc ren and not a machine because i like the classic way of working. simple yet thought out. adding a live looper and stuff is not appealing to me. the midi chord stuff is cool. most likely won’t use it. but i like that new feature thats about it. akai or should i say Newmark need to address serious issues as to compete with other daws. the realtime sampling and chopping functions are awesome because i can chop 1 long sample and save computer disk space.. but i grew up sampling under 20 seconds. aka needs to fix the automation and other workflow ideas. id love to see a implmation of looping different bar lengths with in a sequence . each track set a different bar length. with in a sequence kinda like a beat thang. that would kill the game.. MPC wants to remain traditional to its older gen hardware but..now being owned by newmark and can’t even do simple tasks like automation aka drawing curves or slanted lines… right now only in squares is a F&^&ing JOKE. i love mpc and will not use a machine. but i might just go back to my mpc 1000.

    • Yeah, automation is a major deficit.

      And I agree being able to mix lengths would be nice.

      Were the other features you were curious about?

      • sfdc

        why are you guys saying it doesn’t have automation, it has pattern automation doesn’t it or am I missing something?

  • Mushroom Jesus

    as a traditional mpc user growing up on mlc 2000xl and then owning every mlc under the sun. the 1.8 upgrade is not that special.. coming from a guy who only samples vinyl and make real hiphop. i love the idea of using the computer for loading my loops and workflow and what not i also love that i can use plugins and stuff. but the new features in 1.8 are just hiding changes that need to be addressed like automation and simple features that any daw already does. i got a mpc ren and not a machine because i like the classic way of working. simple yet thought out. adding a live looper and stuff is not appealing to me. the midi chord stuff is cool. most likely won’t use it. but i like that new feature thats about it. akai or should i say Newmark need to address serious issues as to compete with other daws. the realtime sampling and chopping functions are awesome because i can chop 1 long sample and save computer disk space.. but i grew up sampling under 20 seconds. aka needs to fix the automation and other workflow ideas. id love to see a implmation of looping different bar lengths with in a sequence . each track set a different bar length. with in a sequence kinda like a beat thang. that would kill the game.. MPC wants to remain traditional to its older gen hardware but..now being owned by newmark and can’t even do simple tasks like automation aka drawing curves or slanted lines… right now only in squares is a F&^&ing JOKE. i love mpc and will not use a machine. but i might just go back to my mpc 1000.

    • Yeah, automation is a major deficit.

      And I agree being able to mix lengths would be nice.

      Were the other features you were curious about?

      • sfdc

        why are you guys saying it doesn’t have automation, it has pattern automation doesn’t it or am I missing something?

  • Mushroom Jesus

    as a traditional mpc user growing up on mlc 2000xl and then owning every mlc under the sun. the 1.8 upgrade is not that special.. coming from a guy who only samples vinyl and make real hiphop. i love the idea of using the computer for loading my loops and workflow and what not i also love that i can use plugins and stuff. but the new features in 1.8 are just hiding changes that need to be addressed like automation and simple features that any daw already does. i got a mpc ren and not a machine because i like the classic way of working. simple yet thought out. adding a live looper and stuff is not appealing to me. the midi chord stuff is cool. most likely won’t use it. but i like that new feature thats about it. akai or should i say Newmark need to address serious issues as to compete with other daws. the realtime sampling and chopping functions are awesome because i can chop 1 long sample and save computer disk space.. but i grew up sampling under 20 seconds. aka needs to fix the automation and other workflow ideas. id love to see a implmation of looping different bar lengths with in a sequence . each track set a different bar length. with in a sequence kinda like a beat thang. that would kill the game.. MPC wants to remain traditional to its older gen hardware but..now being owned by newmark and can’t even do simple tasks like automation aka drawing curves or slanted lines… right now only in squares is a F&^&ing JOKE. i love mpc and will not use a machine. but i might just go back to my mpc 1000.

    • Yeah, automation is a major deficit.

      And I agree being able to mix lengths would be nice.

      Were the other features you were curious about?

      • sfdc

        why are you guys saying it doesn’t have automation, it has pattern automation doesn’t it or am I missing something?

  • Mutis Mayfield

    Intua beatmaker 2 has better workflow and capabilities without extra computer (colour, touch…) and I could do looping with loopyhd.

    I found these “news” a bit outdated… When they are planning add turntable control of samples (djplayer with 8 cues is better than the livesampling feature shown here) or moog emulation (iMini) ? etc.

    When I think in the “next gen” mpc (mocked up at win conference) with… A tablet attached? Surface? People should try some apps at ipad (even my old 3rd generation does the work) and then left the “wait for” and start “playing with”. At least booth aren’t fully standalone but ipad based solutions are near to portability than reinnassence option imho.

    • sfdc

      you can’t even automate the tempo with beatmaker, in addition to that it’s not even a pattern based sequencer it’s totally different, but as far as iPad apps go beatmaker has the worst workflow of any iOS app, it is by far the most convoluted groove box app on iOS, it doesn’t know whether it is a daw or a groove box and because of that it’s workflow suffers greater than cubasis or auria , or the impc pro, or imaschine. the common denominator I’m seeing through out these post is that everyone who doesn’t like the mpc also does not really know what it is capable of. to each their own of course goes without saying but it’s just weird to see so many people who really don’t know the inner workings of the unit passing judgement so heavily. you have to know the features of the instruments you are comparing to make an objective comparison.

      • Mutis Mayfield

        I didn’t need it due I’m using the trigger finger internal HARDWARE sequencer to control these… But I was talking about chop/slice and looping workflow not composition in midi/note mode which maybe the mpc soft is great but without the features I described (touching the points to slice with a finger over a 9″ colour screen with zoom in out, standalone recording due the ipad is the Hard, synths, vocoders… Etc) is not relevant in my workflow.
        To me the best app for slicing is samplr which manages the audio in impossible ways for grid based interfaces but I love the rubber pads for playing… But hate the encoders to make selections… It is confortable? A matter of taste but not the best approarch, not the most portable, not the most inspiring…

        You talk about my missinformation about mpc soft related to sequencing (not the topic that I was trying to point, sorry if I didn’t explain myself right) but did you tried the samplr app and/or loopyhd?

        My rant was for the “wow” “amazing” slice/loop new feature described by Peter… Which didn’t seem so great to me.

        • sfdc

          sorry I misunderstood you then, but Samplr doesn’t have transient detection and it’s difficult to put markers where you want them precisely it’s also difficult to get rid of them, you’re supposed to just swipe them away but most of the time when you do that you add another marker that you didn’t even want, Samplr also has no folders to organize your samples it’s just one big mess that you have to waste allot of time looking for the samples you want to use. Samplr also has only 6 tracks, no fx automation, and no way to control it with a midi controller. I like its sequencer but it’s not a midi sequencer so there are many many things that it lacks. It’s very nice to touch the waveform and manipulate it with your hands but besides that there are just too many issues to compare it with something like maschine or the mpc.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            Sure but it is fast, intuitive and visual. It doesn’t needs so much more (but I will love midi input for pad triggering… Not the paradigm for the app and nowadays).

            The point in this case is… I can work fast, fun and portable with detached “computer” (the ipad) and it is thinner than te old mpc, full midi comptible and portable.
            It has a lot of apps which perform the same (and some things that you can with desktop software) and I can work on the road from home to work, friends jamsessions… And use what I have at these moment. No mess with cables and so… To me this is the definition of “workflow”. Keep myself attached to a 4 line bargraph and endless encoder it isn’t but I understand the regular mpc users… But the classic users are the most discouraged! (Most of my friends use the mpc with jjOS and hate mpc5000 and so).
            To me every tool has its value but mpcs… Were sequencers! Trying to fight maschine which hasn’t the “old paradigm” background in its terms was a mistake (imho) and I’m not so fan of NI neither… (Check my other answer to take a big picture of what I was trying to argue please).

            When i saw the new series of mpc reinassence I strong believed the best of three will be fly because it is the only which continue the “allinone” box…. But the “an ipad is a toy” mantram left people to try these path… But the future (and present for some of us) is this. Numark talking about attach a tablet /surface over the reinnassence! Did you see these pic?

            http://d3qk4yk8nq0n55.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mpc-ren-windows-embedded.jpg

            http://i2.wp.com/www.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/akai-mpc-windows-e1396649109957-640×320.png?resize=640%2C320

            It is doable today. Only because numark wants to do it with win8/10 instead of keeping growing the ipad way it is not enough to keep me critic with some “pov” and “strategies”

  • Mutis Mayfield

    Intua beatmaker 2 has better workflow and capabilities without extra computer (colour, touch…) and I could do looping with loopyhd.

    I found these “news” a bit outdated… When they are planning add turntable control of samples (djplayer with 8 cues is better than the livesampling feature shown here) or moog emulation (iMini) ? etc.

    When I think in the “next gen” mpc (mocked up at win conference) with… A tablet attached? Surface? People should try some apps at ipad (even my old 3rd generation does the work) and then left the “wait for” and start “playing with”. At least booth aren’t fully standalone but ipad based solutions are near to portability than reinnassence option imho.

    • sfdc

      you can’t even automate the tempo with beatmaker, in addition to that it’s not even a pattern based sequencer it’s totally different, but as far as iPad apps go beatmaker has the worst workflow of any iOS app, it is by far the most convoluted groove box app on iOS, it doesn’t know whether it is a daw or a groove box and because of that it’s workflow suffers greater than cubasis or auria , or the impc pro, or imaschine. the common denominator I’m seeing through out these post is that everyone who doesn’t like the mpc also does not really know what it is capable of. to each their own of course goes without saying but it’s just weird to see so many people who really don’t know the inner workings of the unit passing judgement so heavily. you have to know the features of the instruments you are comparing to make an objective comparison.

      • Mutis Mayfield

        I didn’t need it due I’m using the trigger finger internal HARDWARE sequencer to control these… But I was talking about chop/slice and looping workflow not composition in midi/note mode which maybe the mpc soft is great but without the features I described (touching the points to slice with a finger over a 9″ colour screen with zoom in out, standalone recording due the ipad is the Hard, synths, vocoders… Etc) is not relevant in my workflow.
        To me the best app for slicing is samplr which manages the audio in impossible ways for grid based interfaces but I love the rubber pads for playing… But hate the encoders to make selections… It is confortable? A matter of taste but not the best approarch, not the most portable, not the most inspiring…

        You talk about my missinformation about mpc soft related to sequencing (not the topic that I was trying to point, sorry if I didn’t explain myself right) but did you tried the samplr app and/or loopyhd?

        My rant was for the “wow” “amazing” slice/loop new feature described by Peter… Which didn’t seem so great to me.

        • sfdc

          sorry I misunderstood you then, but Samplr doesn’t have transient detection and it’s difficult to put markers where you want them precisely it’s also difficult to get rid of them, you’re supposed to just swipe them away but most of the time when you do that you add another marker that you didn’t even want, Samplr also has no folders to organize your samples it’s just one big mess that you have to waste allot of time looking for the samples you want to use. Samplr also has only 6 tracks, no fx automation, and no way to control it with a midi controller. I like its sequencer but it’s not a midi sequencer so there are many many things that it lacks. It’s very nice to touch the waveform and manipulate it with your hands but besides that there are just too many issues to compare it with something like maschine or the mpc.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            Sure but it is fast, intuitive and visual. It doesn’t needs so much more (but I will love midi input for pad triggering… Not the paradigm for the app and nowadays).

            The point in this case is… I can work fast, fun and portable with detached “computer” (the ipad) and it is thinner than te old mpc, full midi comptible and portable.
            It has a lot of apps which perform the same (and some things that you can with desktop software) and I can work on the road from home to work, friends jamsessions… And use what I have at these moment. No mess with cables and so… To me this is the definition of “workflow”. Keep myself attached to a 4 line bargraph and endless encoder it isn’t but I understand the regular mpc users… But the classic users are the most discouraged! (Most of my friends use the mpc with jjOS and hate mpc5000 and so).
            To me every tool has its value but mpcs… Were sequencers! Trying to fight maschine which hasn’t the “old paradigm” background in its terms was a mistake (imho) and I’m not so fan of NI neither… (Check my other answer to take a big picture of what I was trying to argue please).

            When i saw the new series of mpc reinassence I strong believed the best of three will be fly because it is the only which continue the “allinone” box…. But the “an ipad is a toy” mantram left people to try these path… But the future (and present for some of us) is this. Numark talking about attach a tablet /surface over the reinnassence! Did you see these pic?

            http://d3qk4yk8nq0n55.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mpc-ren-windows-embedded.jpg

            http://i2.wp.com/www.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/akai-mpc-windows-e1396649109957-640×320.png?resize=640%2C320

            It is doable today. Only because numark wants to do it with win8/10 instead of keeping growing the ipad way it is not enough to keep me critic with some “pov” and “strategies”

  • Mutis Mayfield

    Intua beatmaker 2 has better workflow and capabilities without extra computer (colour, touch…) and I could do looping with loopyhd.

    I found these “news” a bit outdated… When they are planning add turntable control of samples (djplayer with 8 cues is better than the livesampling feature shown here) or moog emulation (iMini) ? etc.

    When I think in the “next gen” mpc (mocked up at win conference) with… A tablet attached? Surface? People should try some apps at ipad (even my old 3rd generation does the work) and then left the “wait for” and start “playing with”. At least booth aren’t fully standalone but ipad based solutions are near to portability than reinnassence option imho.

    • sfdc

      you can’t even automate the tempo with beatmaker, in addition to that it’s not even a pattern based sequencer it’s totally different, but as far as iPad apps go beatmaker has the worst workflow of any iOS app, it is by far the most convoluted groove box app on iOS, it doesn’t know whether it is a daw or a groove box and because of that it’s workflow suffers greater than cubasis or auria , or the impc pro, or imaschine. the common denominator I’m seeing through out these post is that everyone who doesn’t like the mpc also does not really know what it is capable of. to each their own of course goes without saying but it’s just weird to see so many people who really don’t know the inner workings of the unit passing judgement so heavily. you have to know the features of the instruments you are comparing to make an objective comparison.

      • Mutis Mayfield

        I didn’t need it due I’m using the trigger finger internal HARDWARE sequencer to control these… But I was talking about chop/slice and looping workflow not composition in midi/note mode which maybe the mpc soft is great but without the features I described (touching the points to slice with a finger over a 9″ colour screen with zoom in out, standalone recording due the ipad is the Hard, synths, vocoders… Etc) is not relevant in my workflow.
        To me the best app for slicing is samplr which manages the audio in impossible ways for grid based interfaces but I love the rubber pads for playing… But hate the encoders to make selections… It is confortable? A matter of taste but not the best approarch, not the most portable, not the most inspiring…

        You talk about my missinformation about mpc soft related to sequencing (not the topic that I was trying to point, sorry if I didn’t explain myself right) but did you tried the samplr app and/or loopyhd?

        My rant was for the “wow” “amazing” slice/loop new feature described by Peter… Which didn’t seem so great to me.

        • sfdc

          sorry I misunderstood you then, but Samplr doesn’t have transient detection and it’s difficult to put markers where you want them precisely it’s also difficult to get rid of them, you’re supposed to just swipe them away but most of the time when you do that you add another marker that you didn’t even want, Samplr also has no folders to organize your samples it’s just one big mess that you have to waste allot of time looking for the samples you want to use. Samplr also has only 6 tracks, no fx automation, and no way to control it with a midi controller. I like its sequencer but it’s not a midi sequencer so there are many many things that it lacks. It’s very nice to touch the waveform and manipulate it with your hands but besides that there are just too many issues to compare it with something like maschine or the mpc.

          • Mutis Mayfield

            Sure but it is fast, intuitive and visual. It doesn’t needs so much more (but I will love midi input for pad triggering… Not the paradigm for the app and nowadays).

            The point in this case is… I can work fast, fun and portable with detached “computer” (the ipad) and it is thinner than te old mpc, full midi comptible and portable.
            It has a lot of apps which perform the same (and some things that you can with desktop software) and I can work on the road from home to work, friends jamsessions… And use what I have at these moment. No mess with cables and so… To me this is the definition of “workflow”. Keep myself attached to a 4 line bargraph and endless encoder it isn’t but I understand the regular mpc users… But the classic users are the most discouraged! (Most of my friends use the mpc with jjOS and hate mpc5000 and so).
            To me every tool has its value but mpcs… Were sequencers! Trying to fight maschine which hasn’t the “old paradigm” background in its terms was a mistake (imho) and I’m not so fan of NI neither… (Check my other answer to take a big picture of what I was trying to argue please).

            When i saw the new series of mpc reinassence I strong believed the best of three will be fly because it is the only which continue the “allinone” box…. But the “an ipad is a toy” mantram left people to try these path… But the future (and present for some of us) is this. Numark talking about attach a tablet /surface over the reinnassence! Did you see these pic?

            http://d3qk4yk8nq0n55.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mpc-ren-windows-embedded.jpg

            http://i2.wp.com/www.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/akai-mpc-windows-e1396649109957-640×320.png?resize=640%2C320

            It is doable today. Only because numark wants to do it with win8/10 instead of keeping growing the ipad way it is not enough to keep me critic with some “pov” and “strategies”

  • heinrichz

    I do like the jogwheel too and slicing on Maschine is super quick ! M Studio is a beautifull controller all around, not just the displays but also the knobs and buttons and it also makes for a great midi controller for Live and Logic. I do agree though that Maschine will need a more serious song mode and that’s certainly something important the Akai does better at this point.
    I assume NI is aware of that so we will se this taken care of later this year.

    • sfdc

      how long have you been using maschine, I’ve been using it since 2 weeks before it was released. the sequencer in maschine is not even anywhere near capable as the sequencer on the mpc 500. what makes you think that all of a sudden the sequencer on maschine is going to be more capable than the akai flagship if it cannot compete on spec with the bottom of the line series.? I hope what you’re saying is true I just don’t understand what you’re basing the assumption on. native instruments has known for the entire time of maschines existence that it’s sequencer was severely subpar in every midi respect and they have not responded accordingly. Most maschine users want to go back to os 1.8

  • heinrichz

    I do like the jogwheel too and slicing on Maschine is super quick ! M Studio is a beautifull controller all around, not just the displays but also the knobs and buttons and it also makes for a great midi controller for Live and Logic. I do agree though that Maschine will need a more serious song mode and that’s certainly something important the Akai does better at this point.
    I assume NI is aware of that so we will se this taken care of later this year.

    • sfdc

      how long have you been using maschine, I’ve been using it since 2 weeks before it was released. the sequencer in maschine is not even anywhere near capable as the sequencer on the mpc 500. what makes you think that all of a sudden the sequencer on maschine is going to be more capable than the akai flagship if it cannot compete on spec with the bottom of the line series.? I hope what you’re saying is true I just don’t understand what you’re basing the assumption on. native instruments has known for the entire time of maschines existence that it’s sequencer was severely subpar in every midi respect and they have not responded accordingly. Most maschine users want to go back to os 1.8

  • heinrichz

    I do like the jogwheel too and slicing on Maschine is super quick ! M Studio is a beautifull controller all around, not just the displays but also the knobs and buttons and it also makes for a great midi controller for Live and Logic. I do agree though that Maschine will need a more serious song mode and that’s certainly something important the Akai does better at this point.
    I assume NI is aware of that so we will se this taken care of later this year.

    • sfdc

      how long have you been using maschine, I’ve been using it since 2 weeks before it was released. the sequencer in maschine is not even anywhere near capable as the sequencer on the mpc 500. what makes you think that all of a sudden the sequencer on maschine is going to be more capable than the akai flagship if it cannot compete on spec with the bottom of the line series.? I hope what you’re saying is true I just don’t understand what you’re basing the assumption on. native instruments has known for the entire time of maschines existence that it’s sequencer was severely subpar in every midi respect and they have not responded accordingly. Most maschine users want to go back to os 1.8

  • Brunatius

    Having an mpc1000, I can’t say I am dying to get this. I wish they would re issue an mpc1000/2000 with more CPU power and better screen. If you couple your stand alone mpc to a computer, you can get a lot of real time processing etc. the interface is more seamless but still, you’re tied to a laptop.

    Version 1.8 is finally what 1.0 should have been. I’m glad they found a reviewer that can get past this reality and be their biggest cheerleader. But I do like the less critical and more positive spin of this blog.

    • I actually had an earlier version in draft that dealt directly with the standalone hardware question, but in the end, it just felt out of place. 1.8 is about their hybrid software strategy. As for standalone, we just don’t know what’s happening. (I will add, the bit where they hedge about roadmap — I asked them directly about it.)

      Now, as for software:

      If you’re saying they should have shipped 1.0 with every feature everyone wanted, then … sure. Absolutely.

      Does that ever happen?

      Absolutely not. It sure as hell didn’t happen with Maschine (which only recently recovered from a reboot), it didn’t happen with Ableton Live (oh, boy, did it not – speaking as a 1.0 user), it didn’t happen with Spark, which likewise got competitive only in later versions.

      So, let me get this straight: 1.8 is full of things that people wanted, and I applaud those things, and I’m their “biggest cheerleader”? To be perfectly frank, I didn’t write much about the earlier versions because I felt they weren’t really newsworthy, because of what they were lacking. And I’ve been on record many times in defending standalone hardware, including from Akai. (And, believe me, I don’t think Akai thought I was their biggest cheerleader when they read what I had to say about the Rhythm Wolf and that line.) So, I think people read what they want to read.

      When the videos are out later this week, I’ll give them more of a tough comparison to what’s on the market – differences there are subtle. You definitely don’t have to agree with what I say, but I’ll say what I think.

  • Brunatius

    Having an mpc1000, I can’t say I am dying to get this. I wish they would re issue an mpc1000/2000 with more CPU power and better screen. If you couple your stand alone mpc to a computer, you can get a lot of real time processing etc. the interface is more seamless but still, you’re tied to a laptop.

    Version 1.8 is finally what 1.0 should have been. I’m glad they found a reviewer that can get past this reality and be their biggest cheerleader. But I do like the less critical and more positive spin of this blog.

    • I actually had an earlier version in draft that dealt directly with the standalone hardware question, but in the end, it just felt out of place. 1.8 is about their hybrid software strategy. As for standalone, we just don’t know what’s happening. (I will add, the bit where they hedge about roadmap — I asked them directly about it.)

      Now, as for software:

      If you’re saying they should have shipped 1.0 with every feature everyone wanted, then … sure. Absolutely.

      Does that ever happen?

      Absolutely not. It sure as hell didn’t happen with Maschine (which only recently recovered from a reboot), it didn’t happen with Ableton Live (oh, boy, did it not – speaking as a 1.0 user), it didn’t happen with Spark, which likewise got competitive only in later versions.

      So, let me get this straight: 1.8 is full of things that people wanted, and I applaud those things, and I’m their “biggest cheerleader”? To be perfectly frank, I didn’t write much about the earlier versions because I felt they weren’t really newsworthy, because of what they were lacking. And I’ve been on record many times in defending standalone hardware, including from Akai. (And, believe me, I don’t think Akai thought I was their biggest cheerleader when they read what I had to say about the Rhythm Wolf and that line.) So, I think people read what they want to read.

      When the videos are out later this week, I’ll give them more of a tough comparison to what’s on the market – differences there are subtle. You definitely don’t have to agree with what I say, but I’ll say what I think.

  • Brunatius

    Having an mpc1000, I can’t say I am dying to get this. I wish they would re issue an mpc1000/2000 with more CPU power and better screen. If you couple your stand alone mpc to a computer, you can get a lot of real time processing etc. the interface is more seamless but still, you’re tied to a laptop.

    Version 1.8 is finally what 1.0 should have been. I’m glad they found a reviewer that can get past this reality and be their biggest cheerleader. But I do like the less critical and more positive spin of this blog.

    • I actually had an earlier version in draft that dealt directly with the standalone hardware question, but in the end, it just felt out of place. 1.8 is about their hybrid software strategy. As for standalone, we just don’t know what’s happening. (I will add, the bit where they hedge about roadmap — I asked them directly about it.)

      Now, as for software:

      If you’re saying they should have shipped 1.0 with every feature everyone wanted, then … sure. Absolutely.

      Does that ever happen?

      Absolutely not. It sure as hell didn’t happen with Maschine (which only recently recovered from a reboot), it didn’t happen with Ableton Live (oh, boy, did it not – speaking as a 1.0 user), it didn’t happen with Spark, which likewise got competitive only in later versions.

      So, let me get this straight: 1.8 is full of things that people wanted, and I applaud those things, and I’m their “biggest cheerleader”? To be perfectly frank, I didn’t write much about the earlier versions because I felt they weren’t really newsworthy, because of what they were lacking. And I’ve been on record many times in defending standalone hardware, including from Akai. (And, believe me, I don’t think Akai thought I was their biggest cheerleader when they read what I had to say about the Rhythm Wolf and that line.) So, I think people read what they want to read.

      When the videos are out later this week, I’ll give them more of a tough comparison to what’s on the market – differences there are subtle. You definitely don’t have to agree with what I say, but I’ll say what I think.

  • sfdc

    Peter I wish you would do an actual side by side article of just what the Maschine sequencer and the MPC sequencer are capable of. Too many people think there is no difference and that they are so close just because they both have 16 pads on the top. These sequencers are so different and people talk about mpcs being obsolete often so they really have no idea of what the difference is between the two which is drastic!

  • sfdc

    Peter I wish you would do an actual side by side article of just what the Maschine sequencer and the MPC sequencer are capable of. Too many people think there is no difference and that they are so close just because they both have 16 pads on the top. These sequencers are so different and people talk about mpcs being obsolete often so they really have no idea of what the difference is between the two which is drastic!

  • sfdc

    Peter I wish you would do an actual side by side article of just what the Maschine sequencer and the MPC sequencer are capable of. Too many people think there is no difference and that they are so close just because they both have 16 pads on the top. These sequencers are so different and people talk about mpcs being obsolete often so they really have no idea of what the difference is between the two which is drastic!

  • James

    The MIDI outs on this thing are enough to make me want it. This + cheap synths, pedals, a small submixer = lovely. Wonder how it is for sequencing…

  • James

    The MIDI outs on this thing are enough to make me want it. This + cheap synths, pedals, a small submixer = lovely. Wonder how it is for sequencing…

  • James

    The MIDI outs on this thing are enough to make me want it. This + cheap synths, pedals, a small submixer = lovely. Wonder how it is for sequencing…

  • Calaker

    I really laugh at a lot of these non informative (ignorant) comments. The purpose of these hybrid units are to bring access between your computer and the hardware units. I remember how happy I was when I purchased my vga/mouse expansion card for my Roland MV8000 and having access to my displays color screen, a wishful feature for earliar mpc users. Now we have the Maschine and the Renaissance which I have owned both, but recently sold the Maschine studio because of the slow process and terrible sequencer workflow. Yes the Maschine is prettier with the color screens, but my 42″ monitor is even prettier and less strain on the eyes. You will use both screens (the hardware and your computer display) at times on both units. Secondly stop comparing Ableton live with these two units, live is a full and complete daw, yes they have some features that may do the same such as the new looper, but they are not comparable. Maschine is missing many of the features of the Mpc ren such as an audio card, non destructive chopping which can be saved with the file, the live looper, and the maschine requires komplete to really reap many of its features. I can go on for days but in the end its flashy (maschine studio) which distracks user with the color screens and expensive marketing videos and lack of useful tools vs grimey (mpc ren) but great production tools an audio device and better sequencer that doesnt require another 700-1000 worth of instruments to enhance its usability.
    So if you personally, have not used both units for a good period of time and are only comparing by user videos and comments, I would say just use what makes you happy because your comments are just that, comments.

  • Calaker

    I really laugh at a lot of these non informative (ignorant) comments. The purpose of these hybrid units are to bring access between your computer and the hardware units. I remember how happy I was when I purchased my vga/mouse expansion card for my Roland MV8000 and having access to my displays color screen, a wishful feature for earliar mpc users. Now we have the Maschine and the Renaissance which I have owned both, but recently sold the Maschine studio because of the slow process and terrible sequencer workflow. Yes the Maschine is prettier with the color screens, but my 42″ monitor is even prettier and less strain on the eyes. You will use both screens (the hardware and your computer display) at times on both units. Secondly stop comparing Ableton live with these two units, live is a full and complete daw, yes they have some features that may do the same such as the new looper, but they are not comparable. Maschine is missing many of the features of the Mpc ren such as an audio card, non destructive chopping which can be saved with the file, the live looper, and the maschine requires komplete to really reap many of its features. I can go on for days but in the end its flashy (maschine studio) which distracks user with the color screens and expensive marketing videos and lack of useful tools vs grimey (mpc ren) but great production tools an audio device and better sequencer that doesnt require another 700-1000 worth of instruments to enhance its usability.
    So if you personally, have not used both units for a good period of time and are only comparing by user videos and comments, I would say just use what makes you happy because your comments are just that, comments.

  • Calaker

    I really laugh at a lot of these non informative (ignorant) comments. The purpose of these hybrid units are to bring access between your computer and the hardware units. I remember how happy I was when I purchased my vga/mouse expansion card for my Roland MV8000 and having access to my displays color screen, a wishful feature for earliar mpc users. Now we have the Maschine and the Renaissance which I have owned both, but recently sold the Maschine studio because of the slow process and terrible sequencer workflow. Yes the Maschine is prettier with the color screens, but my 42″ monitor is even prettier and less strain on the eyes. You will use both screens (the hardware and your computer display) at times on both units. Secondly stop comparing Ableton live with these two units, live is a full and complete daw, yes they have some features that may do the same such as the new looper, but they are not comparable. Maschine is missing many of the features of the Mpc ren such as an audio card, non destructive chopping which can be saved with the file, the live looper, and the maschine requires komplete to really reap many of its features. I can go on for days but in the end its flashy (maschine studio) which distracks user with the color screens and expensive marketing videos and lack of useful tools vs grimey (mpc ren) but great production tools an audio device and better sequencer that doesnt require another 700-1000 worth of instruments to enhance its usability.
    So if you personally, have not used both units for a good period of time and are only comparing by user videos and comments, I would say just use what makes you happy because your comments are just that, comments.

  • Ridd Lore

    It is really retarded that you can not make your own chord progressions without a lot of trouble. That feature is a no brainer. Even Logic Pro X can do this. Come on now Akai.

  • Ridd Lore

    It is really retarded that you can not make your own chord progressions without a lot of trouble. That feature is a no brainer. Even Logic Pro X can do this. Come on now Akai.

  • Ridd Lore

    It is really retarded that you can not make your own chord progressions without a lot of trouble. That feature is a no brainer. Even Logic Pro X can do this. Come on now Akai.

  • The new software actually fixed a lot of what was wrong while totally getting rid of some progress. How do you automate anything? I used to be able to assign something to a qlink knob and record the changes with it. Now, no changes record no matter what you do when trying to automate pans, filters or anything? Catching up to the Maschine with the non destructible slicing is cool but that automation is needed.

    I’m cool with everything else audio wise. The mpc still gives drums a nice punch and has the screen I’ve been used to for the last 15 years or so. Please don’t change those parts for anybody looking for some fancy new bs.

  • The new software actually fixed a lot of what was wrong while totally getting rid of some progress. How do you automate anything? I used to be able to assign something to a qlink knob and record the changes with it. Now, no changes record no matter what you do when trying to automate pans, filters or anything? Catching up to the Maschine with the non destructible slicing is cool but that automation is needed.

    I’m cool with everything else audio wise. The mpc still gives drums a nice punch and has the screen I’ve been used to for the last 15 years or so. Please don’t change those parts for anybody looking for some fancy new bs.

  • The new software actually fixed a lot of what was wrong while totally getting rid of some progress. How do you automate anything? I used to be able to assign something to a qlink knob and record the changes with it. Now, no changes record no matter what you do when trying to automate pans, filters or anything? Catching up to the Maschine with the non destructible slicing is cool but that automation is needed.

    I’m cool with everything else audio wise. The mpc still gives drums a nice punch and has the screen I’ve been used to for the last 15 years or so. Please don’t change those parts for anybody looking for some fancy new bs.

  • gunboat_d

    i’m trying to decide between an MPC and a Maschine (i really want my old MPC back), but i really hate NI and their activation and i’m afraid that you really never *own* anything with NI. if they decide to disable registration for a piece of software, you can never install it again.
    does Akai do those kinds of things with their software?

  • gunboat_d

    i’m trying to decide between an MPC and a Maschine (i really want my old MPC back), but i really hate NI and their activation and i’m afraid that you really never *own* anything with NI. if they decide to disable registration for a piece of software, you can never install it again.
    does Akai do those kinds of things with their software?

  • gunboat_d

    i’m trying to decide between an MPC and a Maschine (i really want my old MPC back), but i really hate NI and their activation and i’m afraid that you really never *own* anything with NI. if they decide to disable registration for a piece of software, you can never install it again.
    does Akai do those kinds of things with their software?