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How can you get the most hands-on control of a laptop DJ set when you don’t have a lot of room?

With so many of us called upon to DJ in a pinch – even as producers or live acts, onstage or in mixes – it’s relevant to almost anyone making electronic music.

And finding a way to stay mobile a worthy question – but one you might miss if following DJ blogs and music store displays. Imagine if you were making a generic DJ controller prop for a bedroom display at IKEA. You know exactly what it’d look like. It’d be the size of a coffee table (Lack!) and have a couple of giant wheels. Let’s call such things the Plastic Coffins.

That’s all fine and well – until you try to fit your controller into your backpack on easyJet. Or until you show up at a club and there’s barely enough room for your 13″ MacBook Pro.

Now, if you’re using CDJs or digital vinyl for control, you’ll presumably be okay; you mainly need only an audio interface. But if you want a self-contained setup, you’ll definitely need some controls.

There’s also the use case of being at home or on the road and needing to finish a mix or podcast. It’s nice to do this with proper controls, too.

So, I’ve selected a handful of DJ controllers I think stand out for these cases, partly because I’m surprised how often they’re eclipsed by the army of Plastic Coffins.

And I’m curious if Winter Music Conference shakes up this list.

Hrm. One of these looks ... sort of ... more viable outside the home. Photo CC-BY) DeeJay Jones.

Hrm. One of these looks … sort of … more viable outside the home. Photo CC-BY) DeeJay Jones.

I’ll focus here on Native Instruments’ Traktor, because it’s the software I see most in these situations. (Serato may rival Traktor for users, especially in the USA and Asia, but its inflexibility with controller mappings means you’re more likely to see Traktor in tight quarters.)

That said, if you are using one of the other DJ tools that isn’t Serato, most can be easily mapped to these controllers.

And if you think I’m an armchair DJ calling this without, say, racking up massive bookings at Ibiza alongside Richie Hawtin you are … absolutely right. So I’d better get these opinions themselves right.

I am largely ignoring the question of cueing. We can come up with various explanations: space is at a premium and you have to make sacrifices, you’d really rather beatmatch with actual turntables anyway, the sync button works pretty well for a lot of music, you’ve done some prep with cue points in advance… and so on. There’s a case for the touch strips, but we have to make some choices here.

My picks, in descending order:

Traktor Kontrol Z1

This is, as far as I’m concerned, the single best hardware creation for mobile DJs ever.

It’s a controller for Traktor, as the name implies. It covers just the basics, but all the basics are covered: EQ, filter, cueing, 2-channel mixing controls (internal to the computer), and crossfader. With Traktor, you even get cute level meter indicators.

It’s also a controller for Traktor on the iPad, with the addition of a handy effects control (which I really wish also worked in the desktop version).

It’s an audio interface. Phono out, separate headphone out for cueing. And that audio interface, by the way, works for everything (it’s class-compliant). It works with the iPad – including cueing in Traktor for the iPad.

It’s a class-compliant MIDI controller. My Z1 has actually become my go-to controller for a lot of my Pure Data patches. (There are, I imagine, not many people on Earth swapping between Pd and Traktor Scratch Pro, but – yes, I’m sure all of you are reading this now. Get in touch, we should form some sort of secret society.)

If you need a two-channel audio interface headphone cueing or a controller with a slim two-channel DJ controller layout, the Z1 is for you, in other words – on any application, on any operating system, anywhere.

And if you’re using Traktor, it’s all an easy affair right out of the box. Everything feels perfectly solid for a piece of gear that costs nearly nothing.

Also worth considering is the Akai AMX. For Serato users, the AMX is your nearest Z1 equivalent, in that it includes an audio interface and controller in one slim-line box (and it is obviously a none-to-subtle Z1 homage from Akai and InMusic). It also does four deck control rather than two, and the one feature that might recommend it over the Z1 is that it includes dual phono inputs, not just stereo/headphone outs. I’m sticking with my Z1, as I like its more refined layout, but Serato users should be very happy indeed with the AMX and not experience even a pang of NI envy:

Serato DJs Get Slim-Line Controllers at Last, with New Akai Hardware

Native Instruments Kontrol F1

NI is about to take second place, too – but not for the reason they intended. The F1 is a cute sidecar to the Z1, and helped Native Instruments launch the Remix Decks. Read the manual: it’s kind of adorable, in that it just about pleads with you to please try to sample sounds into those decks. (At the time, the idea was new, and NI wasn’t yet selling its own packs.)

If you are a heavy Remix Deck user, the F1 will certainly make this list.

But lots of custom mappings mean the F1 will make the list even if you could care less about Remix Decks.

Ignore the silkscreened labels on the controller, and what the F1 is is impressively useful: RGB LEDs, faders, four knobs.

That’s an appealing layout for custom mappings. And if you can’t be bothered to set up one yourself, there are about a dozen reasonable mappings for this floating around forums for Traktor.

Here are my favorite pre-built mappings. They allow you to use the F1 alongside the Z1, or as an all-in-one, ultra-compact controller. And they will cover the gamut from basic mix controls to getting fancy with Remix Decks and live-style remix performances.

Traktor-F1-Mapping

989 Records has a free download that transforms the F1 into a two-deck controller. Using an F1 and Z1 alongside one another, it’s a bit redundant, but then is a good starting place. Keep the effects controls, browse functions, and looping and cupping, and remap the redundant cue toggles and volume faders. (I might even share my own take on that.)

Free Traktor F1 Mapping – 2 Decks, Fxs and More

Michael Henderson aka DJ Endo is essentially the smartest Traktor user on the planet – clever enough that he’s the one training all the superstars, and that he made this powerful F1 mapping live at a gig and then played for hours. He’s the reason you ought to be afraid of Paris Hilton: with Endo working with Paris, the rest of us are the ones who will wind up looking clueless.

Endo’s approach with the F1 is basically to make it do everything. With faders grouped into four, it’s a four-deck controller, plus playing, looping, and hotcues. It also does beatjump and live-remix tools that may, frankly, be overkill for a lot of DJs. But you retain Remix Deck control.

It’s so fancy that it can be a little intimidating if your DJing is mainly about cueing and mixing, rather than live remixing. But the controls for navigating tracks are already useful; so long as you’re interested in four decks, it’s worth a look, and it’s just five bucks.

To get a sense of how someone who isn’t Endo uses this, there’s a great review:

Kontrol F1 4 Deck Mapping Review [traktortips]

Traktor F1 Deck [DJ Endo / MIDImonsters.com]

If you like this all-in-one approach, the Tekken Ultimate Mapping organizes everything into multiple pages and likewise covers more or less everything Traktor can do – Remix Decks stick around, but you get a lot of other functions, too. Added bonus here is a whole lot of instant effects, if you’re into that sort of thing. It’s a free download, but donations are suggested (and deserved).

Tekken’s Kontrol F1 Ultimate Mapping v3.2 [djtechtools]

It’s sort of the latest iteration of Endo’s approach, out just beginning of February.

Also, for would-be MIDI hackers: the F1, like the Z1, is a useful general-purpose MIDI controller. Not only will every control send MIDI to a computer (or tablet), but you can send MIDI back to the device to set RGB values for the pads. The pads aren’t velocity-sensitive, but that’s the only limitation. This means everyone from VJs to Max/Pd/Reaktor patchers can create powerful solutions with this device.

Runner up: Allen & Heath’s Xone:K1 is also a lovely controller. In fact, if I were judging purely on the basis of being a MIDI controller, it would probably edge out the F1. But it doesn’t have the larger grid of pads on the F1, which feel terrific, and the F1 is better suited to Traktor – both out of the box and in terms of community support. The K1 is worth considering if you’re mainly VJing or working with other DJ tools.

Honorable mention: I left out the Traktor Kontrol X1, even with the mk2 revision in the running. It’s nice, but I think its trackpads for cueing aren’t strictly necessary, and the F1 is more versatile if you have to choose – both in onboard control complement and user support.

If you do want to see someone who’s really good with the X1, though, turn to none other than Sarah Farina, as spotted here at Boiler Room:

And back to Serato users, if the X1 mk2 from Native Instruments had an evil twin at Akai, that’d be the AFX. Like the AMX to the Z1, Akai have squeezed more controls onboard the AFX – and even some small RGB pads for additional loop control and sampling.

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Faderfox DJ3

It makes even the ultra-slim Z1 and F1 look huge. It’s nice looking – people will know you bought a boutique piece of gear. The controls are obsessive-compulsive German quality. It uses USB, and it’s class-compliant. And, oh, my, does the DJ3 fit a lot of controls into a small space.

Everything you really need is there. You get two-channel fader and crossfader, EQs, filters, effects, loops, pitch, key, cues. It does transport. It controls the browser.

In fact, you get everything the Z1 and F1 combined would do, meaning if you replace the Z1 with another audio interface, you have an even more compact setup.

Also, even with all of these capabilities, a lot is accessible even before you touch the shift key.

All of this is possible before any custom layouts, so I think given the complexity of some of those, this is a strong contender.

I dearly hope Faderfox keeps making these, as I think they’re utterly brilliant.

http://faderfox.de/dj3.html

dj44

Runner up: If the DJ3 feels actually too cramped, trade up to Faderfox’s DJ44. It is tiny in all the ways Native Instruments’ own hardware isn’t. And it does away with any kind of touchpads or pad controller or giant wheels. As a result, it gives you dedicated controls for everything without being coffee table-sized.

And you still get four decks’ worth of controls, more mixing controls than anything else I’ve seen, loads of effects, and sophisticated dedicated loop controls.

In other words, the DJ44 is a no-gimmick embodiment of how a lot of average users actually DJ. And it all comes in a nice metal briefcase, James Bond style.

It’s even smaller than you think: 290x220x55 mm – that’s only slightly larger than the size of an American sheet of paper.

It’s not cheap, at 500€, but it’s a beautiful investment at that price – and works neatly with Ableton and Traktor alike, plus anything that supports MIDI. Even if you don’t own it forever, it won’t be because it broke or got outdated.

And it almost made this list, but for that price and the fact that it’s landscape orientation means you can’t sandwich it into a corner as easily as the other options here.

digitaldjtips has a nice DJ44 review; see also a video routine with the X1/Z1 (in German, but you can understand DJing in German)

faderfox.de

An iPad, running TKFX

The iPad can make this list for a number of reasons:

Traktor for iPad is a beautiful piece of software, with touch access to slicing up loops that still bests the desktop software – even with the introduction of some of its functionality on the pricey, enormous Traktor Kontrol S8 hardware.

The Z1 and iPad make for an absurdly-mobile DJ solution, so long as you’ve an iPad with lots of internal storage and you don’t mind someone snickering at you for DJing on a tablet.

And with the addition of the Lemur app (among others), an iPad is a perfect do-everything controller for desktop Traktor, too. If you can’t be bothered to remember exactly which custom mapping went where (see above), you can take advantage of touching something that’s actually a screen.

I covered this concept in a Lemur app introduced nearly a year ago:

The Most Complete iPad Control of Traktor Yet: One Lemur Template Does Nearly Everything

That project has evolved into a huge app called Traxus Control (which for some reason two people didn’t understand was what I was referring to in the previous link – here you go). With this, you really don’t need other controllers, period (you could even replace the Z1 with something smaller):
Traxus Control

More than adding controls, it could change how you play, with fancy extras like sequencers running Remix Decks.

Here, though, to force myself to make one decision, I’m going to limit the iPad to running TKFX.

TKFX controls only the effects in Traktor. But by focusing on that use case, it’s better for effects control than anything else I’ve seen. For one thing, you can swap in different effects easily to your different decks and slots.

And TKFX takes everything you love about a KORG KAOSS Pad – X/Y control, gesture recording, freeze mode – and adds it to Traktor.

TKFX works over a cable, too, so you don’t have to rely on WiFi. It’s also compatible with midimux, the powerful MIDI solution we’ve covered here.

https://www.tkfxapp.com/

mc1000

Honorable Mention: Zomo MC-1000

I didn’t actually even know about this hardware until it showed up in the studio one day. It makes this list in honorable mention position for one simple reason: it represents a different approach from the other options here. It relies so heavily on an external mixer that it actually packs an 8-channel audio interface in the box, and an optional rack mount lets you easily put it above a mixer.

With the mixer doing all the actual mixing, the MC-1000 handles effects and filter controls, and, primarily, cue and transport – up to four deck’s worth.

I like the approach, and it’s stupidly cheap – the price has cut down to 100€, meaning it’s almost hard to resist buying just to try out. But I’m obligated to take points off here because what it lacks is meaningful documentation. And unlike the other options here, it doesn’t fit the self-contained setup brief. But it’d be interesting to see other hardware go this route.

Product Page

djworx review from 2012 – they liked it then, and it wasn’t dirt cheap then.

Demo video (some unpleasant music here in the opening, fair warning):

Honorable Mention: Anything Else with Faders

I should say, it’s very handy to have these controllers with a DJ app. They’re laid out in a way that’s very logical for the main mixing and cueing you might do. Once the basics are taken care of, however, you might do well to simply grab some MIDI controller that’s lying about and start assigning faders to effects you want to use in a gig. (KORG’s ultra-svelte nanoKONTROL comes up in comments; I like my Faderfox UC3 – and it’d go well with the aforementioned DJ3. See also Doepfer’s fader boxes, or the various smaller M-Audio controllers. And quite a lot of others – but I’m restricting myself to the most compact options here.)

Additional Honorable Mention: The Digital Warrior pioneered the notion of sequencing Remix Decks in hardware, and it’s open source. Unfortunately, it’s also discontinued for the moment, but I hope this sees a second life. DJ TechTools cloned this mapping with the Twister, but the Digital Warrior is open hardware and has more dedicated controls – and deserves credit for introducing the concept and Remix Deck mappings.

Go ahead – argue

Using other controllers in your mobile rig?

Using a DJ tool other than Traktor?

Got a favorite mapping or other tool you’ve found or built?

I’d love to hear about how you DJ, and how you use these tools. Do let us know in comments or talk to us on Facebook.

Addendum – just a crossfader?

If you want something truly compact, Mixfader is a Bluetooth wireless crossfader for mobile devices.

And that’s… um… not really terribly useful that I can see, but maybe I’m missing something? (I’ll stick with the Z1, which doubles as an audio interface, has essential mix, EQ, filter, and on iOS effects controls, and lets you queue. Also, you might want wires to connect to the PA, anyway.)

As seen on DJWORX.

  • SB

    No extended mention of the Akai AMX & AFX combo? They’re the Serato friendly versions of something like the Traktor units you mention. Kinda surprised you didn’t do a bit more options that just Traktor. What about iPad apps – not exactly Pro end but still if space is really limited they’re pretty impressive.

    • There’s nothing really Traktor specific about the Z1 or F1. It’s Serato in this case that’s particular. I’d still opt for the NI options as general purpose controllers through yes, those akai units are the best Serato equivalent in cramped quarters.

      As for iPad apps actually most of these controllers could still apply. Z1 plus Traktor for iPad is the most complete solution I’ve seen and I call that out in the story.

      The latest evolution in Serato land meanwhile calls for another story. Let’s see if anything happens at wmc.

      But don’t be misled by the predominant Traktor references. These are all driver free and midi… Faderfox even ships Ableton templates.

      Are you using those akai?

    • Here we go –

      http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/08/serato-djs-get-slim-line-controllers-last-new-akai-hardware/

      Previous coverage of the Serato gear.

      There are a couple of reasons I favor NI’s options, even apart from NI. The MIDI editing tools on the F1 and Z1 I’ve worked with extensively, and they mean that I have no qualms about recommending NI’s hardware as a general-purpose MIDI controller (and audio interface, in the case of the Z1) – even if you aren’t using Traktor.

      I think the AMX is interesting in that it adds phono inputs.

      And the AFX does what some people are doing on the Traktor side with *both* an F1 and X1 – only in less space.

      They’re definitely the other option, and I’m sure out-of-the-box Serato operation would make them the choice you’d want on Serato.

  • SB

    No extended mention of the Akai AMX & AFX combo? They’re the Serato friendly versions of something like the Traktor units you mention. Kinda surprised you didn’t do a bit more options that just Traktor. What about iPad apps – not exactly Pro end but still if space is really limited they’re pretty impressive.

    • There’s nothing really Traktor specific about the Z1 or F1. It’s Serato in this case that’s particular. I’d still opt for the NI options as general purpose controllers through yes, those akai units are the best Serato equivalent in cramped quarters.

      As for iPad apps actually most of these controllers could still apply. Z1 plus Traktor for iPad is the most complete solution I’ve seen and I call that out in the story.

      The latest evolution in Serato land meanwhile calls for another story. Let’s see if anything happens at wmc.

      But don’t be misled by the predominant Traktor references. These are all driver free and midi… Faderfox even ships Ableton templates.

      Are you using those akai?

    • Here we go –

      http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/08/serato-djs-get-slim-line-controllers-last-new-akai-hardware/

      Previous coverage of the Serato gear.

      There are a couple of reasons I favor NI’s options, even apart from NI. The MIDI editing tools on the F1 and Z1 I’ve worked with extensively, and they mean that I have no qualms about recommending NI’s hardware as a general-purpose MIDI controller (and audio interface, in the case of the Z1) – even if you aren’t using Traktor.

      I think the AMX is interesting in that it adds phono inputs.

      And the AFX does what some people are doing on the Traktor side with *both* an F1 and X1 – only in less space.

      They’re definitely the other option, and I’m sure out-of-the-box Serato operation would make them the choice you’d want on Serato.

  • SB

    No extended mention of the Akai AMX & AFX combo? They’re the Serato friendly versions of something like the Traktor units you mention. Kinda surprised you didn’t do a bit more options that just Traktor. What about iPad apps – not exactly Pro end but still if space is really limited they’re pretty impressive.

    • There’s nothing really Traktor specific about the Z1 or F1. It’s Serato in this case that’s particular. I’d still opt for the NI options as general purpose controllers through yes, those akai units are the best Serato equivalent in cramped quarters.

      As for iPad apps actually most of these controllers could still apply. Z1 plus Traktor for iPad is the most complete solution I’ve seen and I call that out in the story.

      The latest evolution in Serato land meanwhile calls for another story. Let’s see if anything happens at wmc.

      But don’t be misled by the predominant Traktor references. These are all driver free and midi… Faderfox even ships Ableton templates.

      Are you using those akai?

    • Here we go –

      http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/08/serato-djs-get-slim-line-controllers-last-new-akai-hardware/

      Previous coverage of the Serato gear.

      There are a couple of reasons I favor NI’s options, even apart from NI. The MIDI editing tools on the F1 and Z1 I’ve worked with extensively, and they mean that I have no qualms about recommending NI’s hardware as a general-purpose MIDI controller (and audio interface, in the case of the Z1) – even if you aren’t using Traktor.

      I think the AMX is interesting in that it adds phono inputs.

      And the AFX does what some people are doing on the Traktor side with *both* an F1 and X1 – only in less space.

      They’re definitely the other option, and I’m sure out-of-the-box Serato operation would make them the choice you’d want on Serato.

  • Zetta

    Beatstep is a fairly decent substitute for F1, though those faders could come in handy.

  • Zetta

    Beatstep is a fairly decent substitute for F1, though those faders could come in handy.

  • Zetta

    Beatstep is a fairly decent substitute for F1, though those faders could come in handy.

  • leolodreamland

    er stj replaces the whole record player https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc1gvmr03B8

    • That’s brilliant.

      Okay, follow up has to be – the ten most unusual DJ rigs. 🙂

      On it.

  • leolodreamland

    er stj replaces the whole record player https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc1gvmr03B8

    • That’s brilliant.

      Okay, follow up has to be – the ten most unusual DJ rigs. 🙂

      On it.

  • leolodreamland

    er stj replaces the whole record player https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc1gvmr03B8

    • That’s brilliant.

      Okay, follow up has to be – the ten most unusual DJ rigs. 🙂

      On it.

  • Dom Harwood

    Korg Nano Kontrol (1) works a treat too.

    • Yeah, absolutely! The nanoKONTROL with faders (in a pinch), Doepfer, and Faderfox boxes are all favorites of mine for adding faders…

  • Dom Harwood

    Korg Nano Kontrol (1) works a treat too.

    • Yeah, absolutely! The nanoKONTROL with faders (in a pinch), Doepfer, and Faderfox boxes are all favorites of mine for adding faders…

  • Korg Nano Kontrol (1) works a treat too.

    • Yeah, absolutely! The nanoKONTROL with faders (in a pinch), Doepfer, and Faderfox boxes are all favorites of mine for adding faders…

  • itchy

    ill take a eurorack version for $200 alex!!!

    • Actually, why no one has done a Eurorack DJ rig ye– wait, I may have just given away a great April Fools’ joke. 😉

      Introducing Traktor Rack.

  • itchy

    ill take a eurorack version for $200 alex!!!

    • Actually, why no one has done a Eurorack DJ rig ye– wait, I may have just given away a great April Fools’ joke. 😉

      Introducing Traktor Rack.

  • itchy

    ill take a eurorack version for $200 alex!!!

    • Actually, why no one has done a Eurorack DJ rig ye– wait, I may have just given away a great April Fools’ joke. 😉

      Introducing Traktor Rack.

  • alexy

    Saw a guy DJing off two PSPs the other night v compact

  • alexy

    Saw a guy DJing off two PSPs the other night v compact

  • alexy

    Saw a guy DJing off two PSPs the other night v compact

  • genjutsushi

    some great tips on DigitalDJTips about how to use keyboard shortcuts when DJing. Surely that is THE most space efficient of all!

    • Yeah, saw that right after I wrote this! I can imagine it coming in handy when you’re super tight for space, for sure… or on the go. The opposite of what we’re prescribing elsewhere, but makes some sense.

  • genjutsushi

    some great tips on DigitalDJTips about how to use keyboard shortcuts when DJing. Surely that is THE most space efficient of all!

    • Yeah, saw that right after I wrote this! I can imagine it coming in handy when you’re super tight for space, for sure… or on the go. The opposite of what we’re prescribing elsewhere, but makes some sense.

  • genjutsushi

    some great tips on DigitalDJTips about how to use keyboard shortcuts when DJing. Surely that is THE most space efficient of all!

    • Yeah, saw that right after I wrote this! I can imagine it coming in handy when you’re super tight for space, for sure… or on the go. The opposite of what we’re prescribing elsewhere, but makes some sense.

  • al

    hey peter been working on a pd dj patch myself well going between max/msp5 and pd

    got many parts of the puzzle
    pd stuff thats been done

    using oggread~ fast loading oggs to table arrays with pitch scratch loops and some other weirdness
    full 4 channel mixer with 3 band eq pioneer style hi/lo filter and also a vocal isolator
    lots of fx granulizers grain freez verbs to many to list its pd
    need a proper tracklist just cant build one correctly in pd
    built a fully working one in my max/msp version
    and now trying to get my max/msp tracklist sending track information to pd over udp
    tricky bit
    controllers im using behringer cmdmm1 novation l-pad mini +2 cheap icon idj
    cheers
    al

    • Mutis Mayfield

      +1 I have also did some research on the field pd/maxmsp/ms.p and even traktor… If I can help 😉

      • Lovely. Actually, an all-Pd DJ project with different patches sounds like a nice challenge!

        • Mutis Mayfield

          Count with me.

    • Nice! Yeah, I have something a bit similar, but I need to work out a way – ideally compatible with libpd – for reading files into buffers more generically.

    • al

      shit sorry guys never seen yous replied
      yeah we need to get somthin going how does the forum work can we upload patches to it

  • al

    hey peter been working on a pd dj patch myself well going between max/msp5 and pd

    got many parts of the puzzle
    pd stuff thats been done

    using oggread~ fast loading oggs to table arrays with pitch scratch loops and some other weirdness
    full 4 channel mixer with 3 band eq pioneer style hi/lo filter and also a vocal isolator
    lots of fx granulizers grain freez verbs to many to list its pd
    need a proper tracklist just cant build one correctly in pd
    built a fully working one in my max/msp version
    and now trying to get my max/msp tracklist sending track information to pd over udp
    tricky bit
    controllers im using behringer cmdmm1 novation l-pad mini +2 cheap icon idj
    cheers
    al

    • Mutis Mayfield

      +1 I have also did some research on the field pd/maxmsp/ms.p and even traktor… If I can help 😉

      • Lovely. Actually, an all-Pd DJ project with different patches sounds like a nice challenge!

        • Mutis Mayfield

          Count with me.

    • Nice! Yeah, I have something a bit similar, but I need to work out a way – ideally compatible with libpd – for reading files into buffers more generically.

    • al

      shit sorry guys never seen yous replied
      yeah we need to get somthin going how does the forum work can we upload patches to it

  • al

    hey peter been working on a pd dj patch myself well going between max/msp5 and pd

    got many parts of the puzzle
    pd stuff thats been done

    using oggread~ fast loading oggs to table arrays with pitch scratch loops and some other weirdness
    full 4 channel mixer with 3 band eq pioneer style hi/lo filter and also a vocal isolator
    lots of fx granulizers grain freez verbs to many to list its pd
    need a proper tracklist just cant build one correctly in pd
    built a fully working one in my max/msp version
    and now trying to get my max/msp tracklist sending track information to pd over udp
    tricky bit
    controllers im using behringer cmdmm1 novation l-pad mini +2 cheap icon idj
    cheers
    al

    • Mutis Mayfield

      +1 I have also did some research on the field pd/maxmsp/ms.p and even traktor… If I can help 😉

      • Lovely. Actually, an all-Pd DJ project with different patches sounds like a nice challenge!

        • Mutis Mayfield

          Count with me.

    • Nice! Yeah, I have something a bit similar, but I need to work out a way – ideally compatible with libpd – for reading files into buffers more generically.

    • al

      shit sorry guys never seen yous replied
      yeah we need to get somthin going how does the forum work can we upload patches to it

  • Mutis Mayfield

    No traxus mention? A little kittie is crying somewhere just right now…

    • There’s no Traxus mention apart from the link to the entire Traxus story I did which is in the article. 🙂 No kitties need to cry.

      Just as I said, I ultimately chose TKFX to run effects-specific stuff in an app, with support for wired control, and use physical controls for other essentials. But Traxus Control is a good choice.

      • and just when i was about to guilt trip you 😉

        BTW, stand by for the Macro Version… Lemur on Android has opened up some wild possibilities…

      • Mutis Mayfield

        I miss it…

  • Mutis Mayfield

    No traxus mention? A little kittie is crying somewhere just right now…

    • There’s no Traxus mention apart from the link to the entire Traxus story I did which is in the article. 🙂 No kitties need to cry.

      Just as I said, I ultimately chose TKFX to run effects-specific stuff in an app, with support for wired control, and use physical controls for other essentials. But Traxus Control is a good choice.

      • and just when i was about to guilt trip you 😉

        BTW, stand by for the Macro Version… Lemur on Android has opened up some wild possibilities…

      • Mutis Mayfield

        I miss it…

  • Mutis Mayfield

    No traxus mention? A little kittie is crying somewhere just right now…

    • There’s no Traxus mention apart from the link to the entire Traxus story I did which is in the article. 🙂 No kitties need to cry.

      Just as I said, I ultimately chose TKFX to run effects-specific stuff in an app, with support for wired control, and use physical controls for other essentials. But Traxus Control is a good choice.

      • and just when i was about to guilt trip you 😉

        BTW, stand by for the Macro Version… Lemur on Android has opened up some wild possibilities…

      • Mutis Mayfield

        I miss it…

  • Guest

    awe, comon peter! 🙂

    http://traxusinteractive.com/

    • Yeah, this was already in the story. 🙂 Since you’re the second person in comments who missed the reference, I’ve added it more explicitly to the top…

  • Guest

    awe, comon peter! 🙂

    http://traxusinteractive.com/

    • Yeah, this was already in the story. 🙂 Since you’re the second person in comments who missed the reference, I’ve added it more explicitly to the top…

  • Guest

    awe, comon peter! 🙂

    http://traxusinteractive.com/

    • Yeah, this was already in the story. 🙂 Since you’re the second person in comments who missed the reference, I’ve added it more explicitly to the top…

  • Anyone interested in Traxus Control Traktor may obtain it here for free: http://traxusinteractive.com/ (Peter’s article links to our older blog from pre-launch)

  • Anyone interested in Traxus Control Traktor may obtain it here for free: http://traxusinteractive.com/ (Peter’s article links to our older blog from pre-launch)

  • Anyone interested in Traxus Control Traktor may obtain it here for free: http://traxusinteractive.com/ (Peter’s article links to our older blog from pre-launch)

  • Ghostgravy

    These are actually for VJing but here’s my mini rig. Mounted to a pedaltrain. I love small controllers the smaller the better!

  • Guest

    These are actually for VJing but here’s my mini rig. Mounted to a pedaltrain. I love small controllers the smaller the better!

  • Guest

    These are actually for VJing but here’s my mini rig. Mounted to a pedaltrain. I love small controllers the smaller the better!

  • Ghostgravy

    These are actually for VJing but here’s my mini rig. Mounted to a pedaltrain. I love small controllers the smaller the better! (oops double post my bad!)

    • Ah cute! Why the DJTT + the Launchpad… how are they mapped? All video clip triggering?

      Loads of overlapping between DJ and VJ control rigs, of course…

      • Ghostgravy

        Launchpad triggers clips. Midifighter does momentary clips and effects in “piano mode.” A little more tactile for jamming in time with the music. In the beginning I tried to give up faders and made a patch for “fades” on the launchad at various speeds but never felt quite right. Enter faderfox.

        • Ah, yes, perfect – I see, UC3 was cropped out in the comment!

  • Ghostgravy

    These are actually for VJing but here’s my mini rig. Mounted to a pedaltrain. I love small controllers the smaller the better! (oops double post my bad!)

    • Ah cute! Why the DJTT + the Launchpad… how are they mapped? All video clip triggering?

      Loads of overlapping between DJ and VJ control rigs, of course…

      • Ghostgravy

        Launchpad triggers clips. Midifighter does momentary clips and effects in “piano mode.” A little more tactile for jamming in time with the music. In the beginning I tried to give up faders and made a patch for “fades” on the launchad at various speeds but never felt quite right. Enter faderfox.

        • Ah, yes, perfect – I see, UC3 was cropped out in the comment!

  • These are actually for VJing but here’s my mini rig. Mounted to a pedaltrain. I love small controllers the smaller the better! (oops double post my bad!)

    • Ah cute! Why the DJTT + the Launchpad… how are they mapped? All video clip triggering?

      Loads of overlapping between DJ and VJ control rigs, of course…

      • Launchpad triggers clips. Midifighter does momentary clips and effects in “piano mode.” A little more tactile for jamming in time with the music. In the beginning I tried to give up faders and made a patch for “fades” on the launchad at various speeds but never felt quite right. Enter faderfox.

        • Ah, yes, perfect – I see, UC3 was cropped out in the comment!

  • André et Michèle

    Xone K2 makes for a powerful, small Traktor controller.

  • André et Michèle

    Xone K2 makes for a powerful, small Traktor controller.

  • André et Michèle

    Xone K2 makes for a powerful, small Traktor controller.

  • Possible honorable Mention? Since you mentioned and iPad screen real estate didn’t seem to matter so I offer up A Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Running Tractor and SmithsonMartin Emulator Touchscreen. Everything you need in on powerful slab – Studio to Stage. Disclosure: I’m not a “DJ” so maybe this is not so good. I create electronic music and I have have been going back to hardware because I like the Tactile feel. But I have the Emulator SW and it is slick.

  • Possible honorable Mention? Since you mentioned and iPad screen real estate didn’t seem to matter so I offer up A Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Running Tractor and SmithsonMartin Emulator Touchscreen. Everything you need in on powerful slab – Studio to Stage. Disclosure: I’m not a “DJ” so maybe this is not so good. I create electronic music and I have have been going back to hardware because I like the Tactile feel. But I have the Emulator SW and it is slick.

  • Possible honorable Mention? Since you mentioned and iPad screen real estate didn’t seem to matter so I offer up A Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Running Tractor and SmithsonMartin Emulator Touchscreen. Everything you need in on powerful slab – Studio to Stage. Disclosure: I’m not a “DJ” so maybe this is not so good. I create electronic music and I have have been going back to hardware because I like the Tactile feel. But I have the Emulator SW and it is slick.

  • Guest

    Oh Hey I almost forgot- I DO use this for VJing with Resolume but there are Tracktor Mappings.. Numark Orbit – Small AND Wirelsss!

  • Guest

    Oh Hey I almost forgot- I DO use this for VJing with Resolume but there are Tracktor Mappings.. Numark Orbit – Small AND Wirelsss!

  • Guest

    Oh Hey I almost forgot- I DO use this for VJing with Resolume but there are Tracktor Mappings.. Numark Orbit – Small AND Wirelsss!

  • Oh Hey I almost forgot- I DO use this for VJing with Resolume but there are Tracktor Mappings.. Numark Orbit – Small AND Wirelsss! but You still need and I/O

    • Yeah, it’s interesting, for sure! I need to look into how people are mapping it…

    • I saw Manic Focus perform a few months back and he had the Numark Orbit strapped to his wrist. He mostly used it for effects from what I saw. I couldn’t see what he was working with in the booth though. That little thing is pretty cool though. It has an accelerometer in it which seemed to also be mappable.

  • Oh Hey I almost forgot- I DO use this for VJing with Resolume but there are Tracktor Mappings.. Numark Orbit – Small AND Wirelsss! but You still need and I/O

    • Yeah, it’s interesting, for sure! I need to look into how people are mapping it…

    • I saw Manic Focus perform a few months back and he had the Numark Orbit strapped to his wrist. He mostly used it for effects from what I saw. I couldn’t see what he was working with in the booth though. That little thing is pretty cool though. It has an accelerometer in it which seemed to also be mappable.

  • Oh Hey I almost forgot- I DO use this for VJing with Resolume but there are Tracktor Mappings.. Numark Orbit – Small AND Wirelsss! but You still need and I/O

    • Yeah, it’s interesting, for sure! I need to look into how people are mapping it…

    • I saw Manic Focus perform a few months back and he had the Numark Orbit strapped to his wrist. He mostly used it for effects from what I saw. I couldn’t see what he was working with in the booth though. That little thing is pretty cool though. It has an accelerometer in it which seemed to also be mappable.

  • Don’t laugh but I just impulse bought a Mixtrack Edge and I love it. When is Faderfox going to put a soundcard, or better yet, a soundcard and jogs on a controller?????

  • Don’t laugh but I just impulse bought a Mixtrack Edge and I love it. When is Faderfox going to put a soundcard, or better yet, a soundcard and jogs on a controller?????

  • Don’t laugh but I just impulse bought a Mixtrack Edge and I love it. When is Faderfox going to put a soundcard, or better yet, a soundcard and jogs on a controller?????

  • Sam Bourgein

    hi there…. amazing article and it’s seriously helped me (V ALMOST!) make the decision as to what to purchase whilst travelling around asia and nz. back home i run a z2. macbook, traktor pro, 2 x 1210 technics and a f1. i want to be able to control deck a/b + remix decks and so thought I may ship over my f1 and grab a z1 to do this… however the faderfox dj3 (or 4 which is now out) looks like an interesting choice. what do you think? i also wondered about the pioneer WeGo… travelling with only laptop speakers is almost important as i want to cue tracks and not require additional amplifier / self powered speakers (in built amp). Thank you!