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For years, the steady disappearance of ports from our computers has been unquestionably a bad thing for musicians.

Things we used have been disappearing: Audio input jacks. Dedicated FireWire connections. Extra USB ports. And I’m not just talking Apple, here, either – slimmer and lighter PCs have often dumped connectors you needed, leaving us with a tangled mess of adapters and incompatibilities. Get a bunch of laptop owners together, and you’re lucky to connect anything without a Santa Claus-style bag of spaghetti.

So, music and audio users can be forgiven to being resistant to change, because some of those changes have been a huge pain.

That may make the next thing I’m about to say sound strange.

Everything we use is about to be replaced with USB-C connectors, the new reversible ports designed as successor to USB. You’ll buy a laptop, and one or two of these things will be all you get for connecting everything.

That is, even more ports are going to disappear, but this time, it’ll make things better, not worse. (Erm, mostly.)

Wait, what?

Let me explain.

First, forget The New MacBook. Apple’s laptop is ground-breaking industrial design, but I still wouldn’t buy one. It’s too soon to commit to a laptop that only does USB-C, and this one isn’t a terribly good value-for-money proposition on performance, either, in comparison to Apple’s other models.

But you can also forget Apple. Because while PC and Apple laptops have gone tended to directions in recent years (regarding display connections, Thunderbolt, and FireWire, for instance), USB-C and even Thunderbolt over USB-C are looking like they’ll be embraced by both sides.

“Oh, fantastic,” say the PC users at this point, “the thing that’s supposed to make me feel better here is that my favorite PC maker is going to be as insane as Apple? Yay.”

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Well, in previous times, yes, you could perhaps argue that. But welcome to a new bizarro world where everything is different. Namely:

1. Fewer ports no longer means fewer connections. We’ve come to associate the number of physical jacks on the side of a machine with the amount of connectivity and bandwidth. That’s no longer the case: the architectures inside the machine have continued to expand in capability rapidly.

2. One port can actually handle everything. Now, the connector and the transports running on it (USB 3.1, Thunderbolt) can keep up with the ever-faster machine inside.

3. We’ll give up and just start using hubs and actually like it. We were caught in a weird gap between the time when ports started disappearing and hubs became standard – so you had sort of but not quite the number of connections you needed for serious work. Displays, video output (for VJs), audio I/O, storage, and all-important power were left in weird configurations. Now, I think we’ll see a cottage industry in pro-grade hubs that do what we need.

4. USB-C can succeed without Thunderbolt failing. Now, note that “USB-C” doesn’t have to mean USB – it’s just a physical connector. Intel has also embraced that same USB-C connector for Thunderbolt. It’s likely to cause some confusion and tech support issues, as people plug Thunderbolt accessories into computers that don’t support them. But on the other hand, Thunderbolt is showing nice signs of growth. Your existing Thunderbolt hardware will work with the new connector and transport (you’ll just need a proper cable or adapter). And the next Thunderbolt will be obscenely fast – 40 Gbps (mostly needed for 4k video).

The Thunderbolt thing should come as relief, as this is showing real signs of promise for higher-performance, stable lower-latency audio, and already works brilliantly on hardware like Universal Audio’s. Companies like Apple may not be thinking of us when they keep Thunderbolt around, but the demand for 4K video means the format is safe (even though in audio, we’ll never use up that much bandwidth).

Also good news from Thunderbolt 3: it carries power, so future Thunderbolt audio interfaces won’t need their own.

Sam Byford did a great write-up for The Verge covering these issues from a mainstream tech perspective:

USB-C has already won: One reversible cable to rule them all

And there’s a video:

What I would add to his analysis is that Thunderbolt is really important to video and audio, and is already seeing widespread use, even if the sorts of folks who read (and write) tech sites may take less notice of it.

Just One Major Caveat.

I don’t think we really have to worry about this much – or at all – for the time being. USB and Thunderbolt hardware you buy today for music and audio, for I/O, DSP, and storage, works just fine. And it’ll work with the new stuff, because USB 3.1 and Thunderbolt 3 are backwards compatible, and the USB-C connector you can contend with via cables and adapters.

There is one thing that worries me a lot, though, and it’s that this one connector is too small.

That raises real concerns for me onstage, in particular. It’s just too easy for a cable to pop out or fail to make a solid connection.

Maybe someone can come up with an industrial design solution that works around that; it’s advantageous having things be small, but only if they can be connected reliably.

And certainly I hope that accessory manufacturers think through what happens when their device is unplugged and replugged. Software and drivers need to respond fluidly, not trainwreck.

I think if you do put these two areas on balance, though, there’s no reason to lose any sleep. And knowing that this is the future facing PC and Mac laptops, there’s time to actually adapt to the bizarro universe and make things work properly.

And then we can say “I, for one, welcome our new reversible Intel overlords.”

In the meantime, I look forward to people telling me I’m actually bats*** crazy and this is all about Apple becoming a consumer company that wants to destroy pro audio so we’ll have no choice but to listen to U2 on our $10,000 gold-plated Apple Watches…

Forever.

Sleep tight!

(Image courtesy Apple.)

  • Yur2die4

    We also have to take into consideration the ruggedness of that port. And power consumption situations when you’re on the go.

    It is annoying in the certain situations where one needs to find that extra power adapter for their hub. Yeah, a laptop might not always power all devices on its own even if it does have four ports, but this slims down your power options tremendously. If you use a hub to plug in 3 devices through that connection, it is very likely that you will also need to use an extra spot on a power outlet.

    My ultimate dream is USB hubs with a rechargeable battery built in. Maybe this will bring technology one step closer to fulfilling that fantasy.

  • Yur2die4

    We also have to take into consideration the ruggedness of that port. And power consumption situations when you’re on the go.

    It is annoying in the certain situations where one needs to find that extra power adapter for their hub. Yeah, a laptop might not always power all devices on its own even if it does have four ports, but this slims down your power options tremendously. If you use a hub to plug in 3 devices through that connection, it is very likely that you will also need to use an extra spot on a power outlet.

    My ultimate dream is USB hubs with a rechargeable battery built in. Maybe this will bring technology one step closer to fulfilling that fantasy.

  • Yur2die4

    We also have to take into consideration the ruggedness of that port. And power consumption situations when you’re on the go.

    It is annoying in the certain situations where one needs to find that extra power adapter for their hub. Yeah, a laptop might not always power all devices on its own even if it does have four ports, but this slims down your power options tremendously. If you use a hub to plug in 3 devices through that connection, it is very likely that you will also need to use an extra spot on a power outlet.

    My ultimate dream is USB hubs with a rechargeable battery built in. Maybe this will bring technology one step closer to fulfilling that fantasy.

  • JonYo

    I think it’s interesting that we’re finally seeing a disconnection between the cable type and connector type, and the protocol used. It used to be that we’d all think of the cable/connector type and the protocol used to send data over that cable as pretty much all one thing. The first time I saw this change was when I saw MIDI-over-USB. Granted, we’d seen USB connected MIDI interfaces for years, but when they did away with the MIDI cables and just had MIDI over USB between the computer and the musical device, a bell went off in my head, and I thought, “oh, it’s still MIDI, MIDI protocol/data structure and the MIDI cable/electrical conventions are separate ideas.”

    So, I think now we’re going to get more used to seeing various protocols all going over the same cable, thunderbolt, display port vX.X, USB 3.1, power too, whatever else. It may take a while for the layperson to wrap their heads around it though.

  • JonYo

    I think it’s interesting that we’re finally seeing a disconnection between the cable type and connector type, and the protocol used. It used to be that we’d all think of the cable/connector type and the protocol used to send data over that cable as pretty much all one thing. The first time I saw this change was when I saw MIDI-over-USB. Granted, we’d seen USB connected MIDI interfaces for years, but when they did away with the MIDI cables and just had MIDI over USB between the computer and the musical device, a bell went off in my head, and I thought, “oh, it’s still MIDI, MIDI protocol/data structure and the MIDI cable/electrical conventions are separate ideas.”

    So, I think now we’re going to get more used to seeing various protocols all going over the same cable, thunderbolt, display port vX.X, USB 3.1, power too, whatever else. It may take a while for the layperson to wrap their heads around it though.

  • JonYo

    I think it’s interesting that we’re finally seeing a disconnection between the cable type and connector type, and the protocol used. It used to be that we’d all think of the cable/connector type and the protocol used to send data over that cable as pretty much all one thing. The first time I saw this change was when I saw MIDI-over-USB. Granted, we’d seen USB connected MIDI interfaces for years, but when they did away with the MIDI cables and just had MIDI over USB between the computer and the musical device, a bell went off in my head, and I thought, “oh, it’s still MIDI, MIDI protocol/data structure and the MIDI cable/electrical conventions are separate ideas.”

    So, I think now we’re going to get more used to seeing various protocols all going over the same cable, thunderbolt, display port vX.X, USB 3.1, power too, whatever else. It may take a while for the layperson to wrap their heads around it though.

  • HappyILiveHI

    The point of a laptop is that it is self-contained. I expect at least 4 connectors built-in on a pro-level machine.

    • foljs

      Self-contained would mean (ideally) 0 ports.

      If you do need 4 connectors then it’s not “self-contained” — it means you carry around you 4 other peripherasl besides the laptop.

      • HappyILiveHI

        Do you really not understand what I mean? Give me a break.

        • foljs

          Not really. Do you?

          • itchy

            you both kinda have points here. i cherish the ports i have but , if you think about it the hub would most likely would stay at home or the work place, where your external gear is. and if your a traveler than you would have to bring your external gear anyway so whats a small hub extra going to hurt. plus its a lot cleaner you don’t have tons of cables tugging at the laptop from different places and it can make the computer yet lighter smaller . to kill ports totally will take a lot of adjustment. but apple has a way of doing this where eventually you can see ahh that makes sense. again usually they also do some stupid shit from time to time.

          • theo

            you’re not very bright are you? either that or you’re just prick for no reason. Have a wonderful day

    • neurogami

      It gets worse:

      “Now, I think we’ll see a cottage industry in pro-grade hubs that do what we need.”

      Buy a machine, then buy the things you need to make the machine useful. And make sure you pack it whenever you go anyplace.

      “We’ve come to associate the number of physical jacks on the side of a machine with the amount of connectivity and bandwidth.”

      Not really. We’ve come to associate the number of physical jacks on the side of a machine with how few other things must be purchased to use the machine as we like.

      A big upside is having a single cable type that can do different things. Having to dig around for the cable that has this or that combo of USB connectors gets to be a drag.

      I’m happy about USB-C, but not happy with having to use port hubs.

  • HappyILiveHI

    The point of a laptop is that it is self-contained. I expect at least 4 connectors built-in on a pro-level machine.

    • foljs

      Self-contained would mean (ideally) 0 ports.

      If you do need 4 connectors then it’s not “self-contained” — it means you carry around you 4 other peripherasl besides the laptop.

      • HappyILiveHI

        Do you really not understand what I mean? Give me a break.

        • foljs

          Not really. Do you?

          • itchy

            you both kinda have points here. i cherish the ports i have but , if you think about it the hub would most likely would stay at home or the work place, where your external gear is. and if your a traveler than you would have to bring your external gear anyway so whats a small hub extra going to hurt. plus its a lot cleaner you don’t have tons of cables tugging at the laptop from different places and it can make the computer yet lighter smaller . to kill ports totally will take a lot of adjustment. but apple has a way of doing this where eventually you can see ahh that makes sense. again usually they also do some stupid shit from time to time.

          • theo

            you’re not very bright are you? either that or you’re just prick for no reason. Have a wonderful day

    • neurogami

      It gets worse:

      “Now, I think we’ll see a cottage industry in pro-grade hubs that do what we need.”

      Buy a machine, then buy the things you need to make the machine useful. And make sure you pack it whenever you go anyplace.

      “We’ve come to associate the number of physical jacks on the side of a machine with the amount of connectivity and bandwidth.”

      Not really. We’ve come to associate the number of physical jacks on the side of a machine with how few other things must be purchased to use the machine as we like.

      A big upside is having a single cable type that can do different things. Having to dig around for the cable that has this or that combo of USB connectors gets to be a drag.

      I’m happy about USB-C, but not happy with having to use port hubs.

  • Velocipede

    The point of a laptop is that it is self-contained. I expect at least 4 connectors built-in on a pro-level machine.

    • foljs

      Self-contained would mean (ideally) 0 ports.

      If you do need 4 connectors then it’s not “self-contained” — it means you carry around you 4 other peripherasl besides the laptop.

      • Velocipede

        Do you really not understand what I mean? Give me a break.

        • foljs

          Not really. Do you?

          • itchy

            you both kinda have points here. i cherish the ports i have but , if you think about it the hub would most likely would stay at home or the work place, where your external gear is. and if your a traveler than you would have to bring your external gear anyway so whats a small hub extra going to hurt. plus its a lot cleaner you don’t have tons of cables tugging at the laptop from different places and it can make the computer yet lighter smaller . to kill ports totally will take a lot of adjustment. but apple has a way of doing this where eventually you can see ahh that makes sense. again usually they also do some stupid shit from time to time.

          • theo

            you’re not very bright are you? either that or you’re just prick for no reason. Have a wonderful day

    • neurogami

      It gets worse:

      “Now, I think we’ll see a cottage industry in pro-grade hubs that do what we need.”

      Buy a machine, then buy the things you need to make the machine useful. And make sure you pack it whenever you go anyplace.

      “We’ve come to associate the number of physical jacks on the side of a machine with the amount of connectivity and bandwidth.”

      Not really. We’ve come to associate the number of physical jacks on the side of a machine with how few other things must be purchased to use the machine as we like.

      A big upside is having a single cable type that can do different things. Having to dig around for the cable that has this or that combo of USB connectors gets to be a drag.

      I’m happy about USB-C, but not happy with having to use port hubs.

  • Will

    These are small enough that we could actually see an increase in ports as machine sizes get ever smaller. I doubt it but it’s plausible!

    One connector to rule them all is indeed good news. Would be delightful if it managed to rule them all for more than two years though.

  • Will

    These are small enough that we could actually see an increase in ports as machine sizes get ever smaller. I doubt it but it’s plausible!

    One connector to rule them all is indeed good news. Would be delightful if it managed to rule them all for more than three years though. I love you XLR.

    I imagine we’ll see more and more devices introduced which incorporate hub/thru technology. It’s half the charm of the Apple keyboard—adds two usb connections.

  • Will

    These are small enough that we could actually see an increase in ports as machine sizes get ever smaller. I doubt it but it’s plausible!

    One connector to rule them all is indeed good news. Would be delightful if it managed to rule them all for more than three years though. I love you XLR.

    I imagine we’ll see more and more devices introduced which incorporate hub/thru technology. It’s half the charm of the Apple keyboard—adds two usb connections.

  • Will

    Magnetic edge casing on a USB-C cable (ala MBP power supply) would go some way toward solving the legitimate concern about the semi-feeble connection these offer. At least for metal machines.

  • Will

    Magnetic edge casing on a USB-C cable (ala MBP power supply) would go some way toward solving the legitimate concern about the semi-feeble connection these offer. At least for metal machines.

  • Will

    Magnetic edge casing on a USB-C cable (ala MBP power supply) would go some way toward solving the legitimate concern about the semi-feeble connection these offer. At least for metal machines.

  • Polite Society

    There’s no hope! We’ll always be slaves to our spaghetti masters! *despair*

  • Polite Society

    There’s no hope! We’ll always be slaves to our spaghetti masters! *despair*

  • Polite Society

    There’s no hope! We’ll always be slaves to our spaghetti masters! *despair*

  • itchy

    on the controller side maybe it will force the industry to make wireless controllers the norm and more efficent. but as for audio interfaces im not sure how to not need a port at this time.
    maybe apple will start making a line of audio video production based laptops. (that would be the day)

  • itchy

    on the controller side maybe it will force the industry to make wireless controllers the norm and more efficent. but as for audio interfaces im not sure how to not need a port at this time.
    maybe apple will start making a line of audio video production based laptops. (that would be the day)

  • itchy

    on the controller side maybe it will force the industry to make wireless controllers the norm and more efficent. but as for audio interfaces im not sure how to not need a port at this time.
    maybe apple will start making a line of audio video production based laptops. (that would be the day)

  • Thomas Glendinning

    I’m interested as to why there is not more discussion about wireless technology? I understand that it’s probably not as mature as cabled tech but as someone whose been running a bunch of things (quite successfully) via WiFi & Bluetooth (iPad with Conductr, touchAble, etc), Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, etc. and now there’s Bluetooth LE; I’m way more excited for the future when there are no ports and cables at all!

    Picture it. You arrive home and your laptop immediately connects to your wireless power and starts charging, you don’t even have to think and you can hit play and full bandwidth audio streams wirelessly to your home stereo. I can imagine a future where ports aren’t even an issue and everything works seamlessly over a standardised wireless connection.

    Anecdote time: I dropped my laptop the other day with my phone plugged in via USB to sync… The only damage my laptop took was when the cable got hooked on something and yanked the USB port… Nice big dent in the side of my machine… If I had been syncing via WiFi, well…

    I say get rid of the ports, please!

  • Thomas Glendinning

    I’m interested as to why there is not more discussion about wireless technology? I understand that it’s probably not as mature as cabled tech but as someone whose been running a bunch of things (quite successfully) via WiFi & Bluetooth (iPad with Conductr, touchAble, etc), Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, etc. and now there’s Bluetooth LE; I’m way more excited for the future when there are no ports and cables at all!

    Picture it. You arrive home and your laptop immediately connects to your wireless power and starts charging, you don’t even have to think and you can hit play and full bandwidth audio streams wirelessly to your home stereo. I can imagine a future where ports aren’t even an issue and everything works seamlessly over a standardised wireless connection.

    Anecdote time: I dropped my laptop the other day with my phone plugged in via USB to sync… The only damage my laptop took was when the cable got hooked on something and yanked the USB port… Nice big dent in the side of my machine… If I had been syncing via WiFi, well…

    I say get rid of the ports, please!

  • Thomas Glendinning

    I’m interested as to why there is not more discussion about wireless technology? I understand that it’s probably not as mature as cabled tech but as someone whose been running a bunch of things (quite successfully) via WiFi & Bluetooth (iPad with Conductr, touchAble, etc), Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, etc. and now there’s Bluetooth LE; I’m way more excited for the future when there are no ports and cables at all!

    Picture it. You arrive home and your laptop immediately connects to your wireless power and starts charging, you don’t even have to think and you can hit play and full bandwidth audio streams wirelessly to your home stereo. I can imagine a future where ports aren’t even an issue and everything works seamlessly over a standardised wireless connection.

    Anecdote time: I dropped my laptop the other day with my phone plugged in via USB to sync… The only damage my laptop took was when the cable got hooked on something and yanked the USB port… Nice big dent in the side of my machine… If I had been syncing via WiFi, well…

    I say get rid of the ports, please!

  • Freeks

    They just make up new ports so they can sell us more $30 adapters 😀

    After 13 years my HD’s and Soundcards are still Firewire. Now i just need TB->FW adapter. next i will need USB-C->FW adapter.

  • Freeks

    They just make up new ports so they can sell us more $30 adapters 😀

    After 13 years my HD’s and Soundcards are still Firewire. Now i just need TB->FW adapter. next i will need USB-C->FW adapter.

  • Freeks

    They just make up new ports so they can sell us more $30 adapters 😀

    After 13 years my HD’s and Soundcards are still Firewire. Now i just need TB->FW adapter. next i will need USB-C->FW adapter.

  • FabriciusRex

    I thought Skylake and wireless connectivity was the future. That would be truly great.

  • FabriciusRex

    I thought Skylake and wireless connectivity was the future. That would be truly great.

  • FabriciusRex

    I thought Skylake and wireless connectivity was the future. That would be truly great.

  • Just getting a hub for my macbook that allows me to go from 1 hdmi, 2 usb, 2 thunderbolt, and one power cable down to just the power and 2 thunderbolt cables was a huge improvement. I’ll love the possibility of having just the one cable that can handle everything.

  • Just getting a hub for my macbook that allows me to go from 1 hdmi, 2 usb, 2 thunderbolt, and one power cable down to just the power and 2 thunderbolt cables was a huge improvement. I’ll love the possibility of having just the one cable that can handle everything.

  • Just getting a hub for my macbook that allows me to go from 1 hdmi, 2 usb, 2 thunderbolt, and one power cable down to just the power and 2 thunderbolt cables was a huge improvement. I’ll love the possibility of having just the one cable that can handle everything.

  • Tekknovator

    Just to bolster your thoughts, here my own experience: Take my iPad down to the studio, plug in that one connector with USB hub, ready to go. This is faster than starting a workstation like Fantom. One cable, click. and the iPad is the heart of the setup, Only issue is power though… Anyways, I guess you nailed it.

  • Tekknovator

    Just to bolster your thoughts, here my own experience: Take my iPad down to the studio, plug in that one connector with USB hub, ready to go. This is faster than starting a workstation like Fantom. One cable, click. and the iPad is the heart of the setup, Only issue is power though… Anyways, I guess you nailed it.

  • Tekknovator

    Just to bolster your thoughts, here my own experience: Take my iPad down to the studio, plug in that one connector with USB hub, ready to go. This is faster than starting a workstation like Fantom. One cable, click. and the iPad is the heart of the setup, Only issue is power though… Anyways, I guess you nailed it.

  • Kristoffer Lislegaard

    I am also very concerned about the cable not falling out on stage. Maybe there will be some sollutions similar to the ones we find on Sonys A7 cameras for securing the micro HDMI cable.

    The other thing is: When everything is Usb-C plugs. How do we connect more to our computers? Will there be usb-c hubs or will we chain them like we do with thunderbolt now?

    In the studio f.ex. you might have your machine connected to a screen, 3-4 controllers, a sound card and an external hard drive.

    • Freeks

      You will buy $400 hub that you connect all your gear. Like now there is those expensive TB Hubs that are then replaced by USB-C hubs that are then replaced with USB-TB or whatever comes next.

      • Kristoffer Lislegaard

        But isn’t the though that all the gear becomes USB-c as well? Usb-c soundcard, usb-c hard drive, usb-c screen?

  • Kristoffer Lislegaard

    I am also very concerned about the cable not falling out on stage. Maybe there will be some sollutions similar to the ones we find on Sonys A7 cameras for securing the micro HDMI cable.

    The other thing is: When everything is Usb-C plugs. How do we connect more to our computers? Will there be usb-c hubs or will we chain them like we do with thunderbolt now?

    In the studio f.ex. you might have your machine connected to a screen, 3-4 controllers, a sound card and an external hard drive.

    • Freeks

      You will buy $400 hub that you connect all your gear. Like now there is those expensive TB Hubs that are then replaced by USB-C hubs that are then replaced with USB-TB or whatever comes next.

      • Kristoffer Lislegaard

        But isn’t the though that all the gear becomes USB-c as well? Usb-c soundcard, usb-c hard drive, usb-c screen?

  • Kristoffer Lislegaard

    I am also very concerned about the cable not falling out on stage. Maybe there will be some sollutions similar to the ones we find on Sonys A7 cameras for securing the micro HDMI cable.

    The other thing is: When everything is Usb-C plugs. How do we connect more to our computers? Will there be usb-c hubs or will we chain them like we do with thunderbolt now?

    In the studio f.ex. you might have your machine connected to a screen, 3-4 controllers, a sound card and an external hard drive.

    • Freeks

      You will buy $400 hub that you connect all your gear. Like now there is those expensive TB Hubs that are then replaced by USB-C hubs that are then replaced with USB-TB or whatever comes next.

      • Kristoffer Lislegaard

        But isn’t the though that all the gear becomes USB-c as well? Usb-c soundcard, usb-c hard drive, usb-c screen?

  • NRGuest

    Someone needs to bring back the screws that exist on VGA cables, but for usb ports.

  • NRGuest

    Someone needs to bring back the screws that exist on VGA cables, but for usb ports.

  • NRGuest

    Someone needs to bring back the screws that exist on VGA cables, but for usb ports.

  • theo

    Well I have thousands invested in USB controllers, audio interfaces, laptop, etc. I won’t be upgrading for awhile if ever!!!!!!! Unless there some reverse compatible USB

  • theo

    Well I have thousands invested in USB controllers, audio interfaces, laptop, etc. I won’t be upgrading for awhile if ever!!!!!!! Unless there some reverse compatible USB

  • theo

    Well I have thousands invested in USB controllers, audio interfaces, laptop, etc. I won’t be upgrading for awhile if ever!!!!!!! Unless there some reverse compatible USB

  • smutje

    Sooooo…. what about the rumored iPad Pro? Supposedly this one will have an USB-C port as well? I just dreamt up an iPad connected to an UAD Apollo *jizz everywhere*

  • smutje

    Sooooo…. what about the rumored iPad Pro? Supposedly this one will have an USB-C port as well? I just dreamt up an iPad connected to an UAD Apollo *jizz everywhere*

  • Smutje

    Sooooo…. what about the rumored iPad Pro? Supposedly this one will have an USB-C port as well? I just dreamt up an iPad connected to an UAD Apollo *jizz everywhere*

  • lala

    I like the idea of one connector for all my connection needs, but I dislike that apple removed the mag save, the new laptops are going to fly of the desk again if someone trips over the “power cable”.

    • lala

      “mac save” of course

  • lala

    I like the idea of one connector for all my connection needs, but I dislike that apple removed the mag save, the new laptops are going to fly of the desk again if someone trips over the “power cable”.

    • lala

      “mac save” of course

  • lala

    I like the idea of one connector for all my connection needs, but I dislike that apple removed the mag save, the new laptops are going to fly of the desk again if someone trips over the “power cable”.

    • lala

      “mac save” of course

  • Guest0389

    Does a laptop need to be so thin that it can only have one port?

  • Guest0389

    Does a laptop need to be so thin that it can only have one port?

  • Guest0389

    Does a laptop need to be so thin that it can only have one port?

  • I’m just looking forward to using a laptop with several USB-C ports and I can use them as I please (much like the new Chromebook that has two USB-C ports).
    So I don’t think the new USB-C trend would lead to all devices having only one port left. It’s rather unifying the interface for all kinds of applications (charging, devices, audio, video etc.).

  • I’m just looking forward to using a laptop with several USB-C ports and I can use them as I please (much like the new Chromebook that has two USB-C ports).
    So I don’t think the new USB-C trend would lead to all devices having only one port left. It’s rather unifying the interface for all kinds of applications (charging, devices, audio, video etc.).

  • I’m just looking forward to using a laptop with several USB-C ports and I can use them as I please (much like the new Chromebook that has two USB-C ports).
    So I don’t think the new USB-C trend would lead to all devices having only one port left. It’s rather unifying the interface for all kinds of applications (charging, devices, audio, video etc.).

  • Séamus Bradd

    I’m sorry, but most of these arguments are pretty shaky. USB type-C is still pretty unproven in terms of connectivity. Heck, there’s still a whole bunch of my devices that I can’t get working on USB3 ports AT ALL. The idea that we’ll now have to depend on third-party hubs is difficult to swallow – as a ‘proud’ (sarcasm) owner of a late 2014 Macbook Pro, I know all too well that hubbing everything over a Thunderbolt 2 connection is prohibitively expensive, impractical and mostly just does not work.

    Honestly, if this is the future of computing, I’m just going to go back to a bunch of synths, a mixing desk and an Atari ST. Apple’s single-minded obsession with ornament over practicality has already meant most of my outboard gear is ‘obsolete’.

  • Séamus Bradd

    I’m sorry, but most of these arguments are pretty shaky. USB type-C is still pretty unproven in terms of connectivity. Heck, there’s still a whole bunch of my devices that I can’t get working on USB3 ports AT ALL. The idea that we’ll now have to depend on third-party hubs is difficult to swallow – as a ‘proud’ (sarcasm) owner of a late 2014 Macbook Pro, I know all too well that hubbing everything over a Thunderbolt 2 connection is prohibitively expensive, impractical and mostly just does not work.

    Honestly, if this is the future of computing, I’m just going to go back to a bunch of synths, a mixing desk and an Atari ST. Apple’s single-minded obsession with ornament over practicality has already meant most of my outboard gear is ‘obsolete’.

  • Yung Spleen

    I’m sorry, but most of these arguments are pretty shaky. USB type-C is still pretty unproven in terms of connectivity. Heck, there’s still a whole bunch of my devices that I can’t get working on USB3 ports AT ALL. The idea that we’ll now have to depend on third-party hubs is difficult to swallow – as a ‘proud’ (sarcasm) owner of a late 2014 Macbook Pro, I know all too well that hubbing everything over a Thunderbolt 2 connection is prohibitively expensive, impractical and mostly just does not work.

    Honestly, if this is the future of computing, I’m just going to go back to a bunch of synths, a mixing desk and an Atari ST. Apple’s single-minded obsession with ornament over practicality has already meant most of my outboard gear is ‘obsolete’.

  • cipnrkorvo

    At some point this will replace XLR connections. Phantom power, no problem. This has all the power needed. All digital. We need
    – a version with screws (like NRGGuest said) or some sort of locking system

    – super isolated cables that won’t get any interference/cut signal no matter what happens

  • anders

    So for a UAD apollo (thunderbolt) owner now what does this mean? I’ll have to get a hub, a new cable, and it will work?