Roland’s new SP-404A sampler isn’t really a new product – but a firmware update for the AIRA TR-8 actually does make its AIRA drum machine more powerful.

Here’s the deal: Roland buried the lede on this one. They want dealers and press to focus on what they’re calling the AIRA SP-404A performance sampler. But the thing is, despite the “A” (for AIRA), the 404A actually is an SP-404SX, in a new paint job and with some new Loopmasters sample content bundled. Don’t get me wrong – the 404SX is already really great. It’s a wildly popular sampler (Roland claims the most popular mobile sampler), it runs on AA batteries, and it’s easy and fun to use. I see them everywhere. But unless you absolutely need yours to be black and are incapable of finding samples, you should probably see if you can get a deal on the 404SX.

No, the news here is actually a firmware update for the TR-8 – that’s the big, black-with-neon-green original AIRA drum machine.

The TR-8 gets a firmware update today that lets it trigger external gear via MIDI. Updated: the firmware update also adds resolution to the USB driver.

The TR-8 is brilliant – it’ll sound like an 808 or 909, and it’s got lots of hands-on controls, including faders for each part. Those faders are ideal in performance, and that’s made the TR-8 one of the most commonly spotted bits of kit in live techno and house shows.

But the TR-8 can’t play samples; you’re limited to its internal, modeled sounds. So, what you get instead is, the TR-8 will now trigger external gear.

It’s set up by default to work with the SP-404A:

“Users can incorporate samples from the SP-404A and use them in conjunction with drum patterns, and each of the TR-8’s 11 tracks can trigger a sample on the SP-404A, play a TR-8 sound, or both.”

But, again, Roland seems really keen to sell you an SP-404A. An SP-404SX will work. So will any other Roland sampler, or KORG sampler, or an old MPC. Anything that accepts MIDI will now work with the TR-8. And that’s actually reasonably convenient, I think, especially in performance. (The 404 is still a great choice.)

Actually, it’s the SP-404SX/A that’s hard to support, because its 12 pads have fixed MIDI notes. Pads run from B2 (MIDI note 47) to (MIDI note 58). The INST SEL buttons trigger the first eleven of the SP404’s twelve pads. (Since there are only eleven buttons, you can’t trigger pad 12.) Of course, you could also just clock the SP404 to your TR-8, but this way, you can do all your sequencing on one instrument, and mix and match 404 sample sounds with the internal TR-8 sounds in one place.

You can set each pad to internal sounds, external sounds, or both simultaneously, to mix however you’d like.

And this isn’t limited to the SP404SX/A; it’s just convenient for that hardware. It wouldn’t be hard if you have a different sampler to adjust that sampler to the TR-8’s new fixed MIDI note outputs.

The other addition: USB audio now supports 44.1, 48, and 96 kHz sample rates via USB audio.

I’d love for the TR-8 to have its own internal sample playback capability. But given something like an SP-404 is already set up to make it easy and hands-on to capture your own samples, having another piece of gear has some advantages in the meanwhile anyway.

Also, even with those cool Boutique models on offer, the TR-8 remains an outstanding buy. And it’s clear Roland isn’t abandoning its first-generation AIRA buyers, even as it unveils new kit. I love the Boutique TR-09 and TR-08, but before you buy one, you should still comparison shop the TR-8 and see which best fits your needs and preferences.

But for the record: the TR-8 has 808 and 909 and 606 and (via expansion) even 707 and 727 sounds. And it has faders. And it now has external MIDI triggering. And more tracks. And more internal effects. Basically, if you’re getting the Boutique options, you’re doing it for their refreshed sound models, format factor, trigger outs, and looks.

https://www.roland.com/us/products/tr-8/

1.5 is available now for download; full documentation here:

https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/tr-8/updates_drivers/

Thanks for the feedback, readers!

  • bd

    nice – i wonder how much we’ll be able to control from the tr8 – just a sequence or some other controls via the knobs for each instrument. . would be great to use a tr8 as an interface for a ableton/M4L drum machine.

    • ulFons

      it can be used as a midicontroller if that is what you mean ….

  • ob

    Sp404a is a real missed opportunity. Up to date sequencing capabilities and being able to resample the patterns would make it my next purchase

  • Robert Dorschel

    All we’re missing from the Boutique line from the “golden Era of Roland” now is: a D50, JX8P/JX10, Alpha Juno, and a sampler *for synthesists* like the S-10 or W30. Just save WAV samples to an SD card and create loop points + ADSR + filters + layers. Use the A-01 screen. Done!

  • Graeme Jackson

    Again, an update for the TR-8 which doesn’t have pattern change via Midi. Sod all over the above. Who finds kit change via Midi useful? Who? Yeah, no one! Just this simple feature would make the TR-8 a really good machine. The sequencer is what makes it so much fun, especially if it doesn’t sound so good. Taking this away so you can pattern change from a sequencer which can, just takes the fun away. COME ON ROLAND!

  • ulFons

    someone got this actually working ? I am doin my best as there is no documentation at all – but so far only get BD SD LT MT RS on respective notes 47,48,49,50 and 52, thus asssuming I am missing note 51, 53, 54, 55, 56 & 57 …. they are all sending via the midicable (not via usb!) to ableton live so something is right…. doesnt matter tho what set I choose via inst select, all modes send this data. No data recieved on ch 2 as it is mentioned in the rather cryptic Tr-8 Update note. So anyhows …if anyone would care to enlighten me (and probably a dozen others …) Nothing would please me more. And on a note : who runs the roland manual writing deparment ? You´re fired! .))

    • Muzak

      Did you select the instrument and then for each instrument use pad 16 to let it blink blue or yellow (mine is white) on the TR-8 ? If pad 16 is not blinking it won’t send the SP404 notes but only the TR-8 MIDI notes. I checked and it does send notes via USB. This whole TR-8 update just adds only some MIDI messages. WOW.. (Where is the CR-78 ?) And yes, Roland Aira Synth manuals are the worst ever released on this planet. And a Roland instruction video on Youtube would be handy, instead of all the promo stuff.

    • ulFons

      ah ok thanx to user Muzak – now got it … so by choosing kit no 16, assigning these to one of two “blinking” modes in the drum select inst (select instrument push down buttons and setting them into one of two blinking modes) now got a seperate channel 1 for programming – not that it really changes a lot .)

  • MJndahouse

    Is it possible to load the 808 kick across all 16 pads with their own tuning?

  • Andy

    I just get this to work with the sx, sample are triggered at random , can’t change the banks either. It syncs to tempo that’s it. I think there’s a bug in 1.5

    • Andy

      Can’t get it to work